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inb4 people start saying westopher and I are just bum buddies, sucking each other cocks and shit. which is not true as we dont know each other.
alot of you guys prob dont even "OWN" a dog and are just listening to what your "friends" say or your family members say etc etc.
you guys really need to look up wether what you hear is true or not instead of just hopping on to your keyboard and start blurring non-sense out.
media love to use Pitbulls, something about the Pits that just BUGS them so much they want to demolish them.
I hate how they have to be Muzzled and leashed at all times in public, and they need to be in a 'confined' area even in your own back yard. yeah, that means a BIG CAGE. now this applies to burnaby, I believe in vancouver the Pits does not need to be muzzled, correct me if I m wrong westopher.
back in the days 'vicious dogs' were german shepherds and mastiff? I cant remember them out the top of my head, but now days every incident is pinned to pitbulls, so I dont think this pitbull vicious dog era will ever change now.
I would love to one day see chihuahuas labeled as vicious dogs. just because their so small and they bite like a little bitch makes them un-vicious or un-aggressive.
The propensity for aggression is bred out with greater veracity than annoying traits, like baying. The breeders of Golden Retrievers, Labrador Retrievers, Poodles and other traditionally hunting breeds have bred out almost all aggression as they've become contemporary companion animals. The good breeders of Pit Bulls, and the base stock, English Bulldogs, French Bulldogs, and Boston Terriers have also bred out aggression as they've become contemporary companion animals. The average levels of aggression are thus similar. At least that's my experience. The rare bad breeders who promote aggression in Pit Bulls give the entire breed a bad name, unfortunately.
The breeds where limiting aggression has not been a priority are toy breeds, like Mini-Poodles, Chiwawas, Pomeranians, and Cocker Spaniels. They're the most mean in my experience.
So it CAN be the breed.. that's what I was wondering
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Pitbulls are just the flavour on the decade. In the past, the breeds people feared the most varied from rotties, great danes, german shepards, bulldogs, dobermans, etc. My mom used to own a german shepard/doberman cross and it was one of the sweetest dogs I've ever known.
Now... dogs you should be on the look out are breeds like the wolf-dog hybrid (purely because it still has part of the wolf genetics and all the fun stuff that comes along with it) and the chow chow (seriously lol).
The problem is that while a chihuahua might be more aggressive and attack someone more often, you can kick the dog off your leg with relative ease. A larger dog that might only attack in self defense will have a harder grip and, often, is more intelligent than their smaller cousins, so it has the wits to attack you in your more vulnerable spots.
I hate how they have to be Muzzled and leashed at all times in public, and they need to be in a 'confined' area even in your own back yard. yeah, that means a BIG CAGE. now this applies to burnaby, I believe in vancouver the Pits does not need to be muzzled, correct me if I m wrong westopher.
There is no breed specific regulations in vancouver. Aggressive dogs are only defined as any dog with a history or current visual signs of aggression. I take my dog off leash occasionally in off leash parks, and he has never worn a muzzle. He is a pitbull/german shepard but thats neither here nor there, just a tidbit of info. People need to understand these dogs are just dogs, and individuals are just that. Each dog has its own brain, and its own behavioural characteristics based on genetics and its upbringing. The same nature vs. nurture shit we learned about in elementary school people seem to forget when it comes to animals other than humans.
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Westopher is correct.
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
I honestly dont see how a Dog is bred OUT of aggression.
a dog is like a baby, how could a baby be born and first thing on its mind is "I m gonna grow up to hunt, kill, herd"
unless someone could give me scientific proof that a Dog can be bred into killing and all that I dont believe it.
This is difficult to write in basic and concise terms.
DNA is passed on from parent bodies to child bodies, including human to baby and dog to puppy.
DNA determines the structure and arrangement of bodies and body systems, including human brains and dog brains.
The basic arrangement of the neurons in a dog's brains is thereby genetically pre-determined by its parents. I say basic because neurons respond to environmental influence (training) later in life, too.
The basic arrangement of neurons determines qualities such as an instinct to herd and aggression.
A dog with aggressive DNA will then pass on aggressiveness to its puppies.
DNA also has a half-life with declining influence with successive generations.
The stressing or avoidance of DNA (through selective breeding) that determines aggressiveness can thereby increase or decrease the quality.
that's just an unfortunate situation for both dog owners. any dog can be out of control if not properly trained or taken care of or socialized.
Loved my pit Eddy RIP but he sure wasn't even half as aggressive as my akitas Loy Fuk and Loy Fat (RIP) and fuck me...my sharpei Cullen now, he's such a loyal one pack(family) animal that his alert and protection instinct makes him seem the most aggressive dog in the world.
If I was the old man with the pug I know would've done the same thing except i'd only have keys .
If I was the woman, I definitely would've done more to prevent this tragedy.
As I am now, I always ensure my dogs(also have a maltese and a toy poo) short leashed around other dogs just in case because I know my dogs temperament and do all I can to make sure everyone is safe especially themselves.
And as funny as it sounds if a dog ever bit down on your dog stick your finger (or anything for that matter...and no nabs not what you think ) in the attacking dog's asshole, it definitely works
BUT once you do be prepared to face the dog head on as it will change it's focus onto you.
such thanks doge.
That is quite the offer, thank you. I don't think I would be able to though, I get pretty anxious whenever I see them. Maybe one day, but I don't think that day will be anytime soon =/
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Couple years ago we were dogsitting and walking the two german shepherds, an offleash pitbull made a beeline for us. The sheps turned on "don't fuck with us" mode, and the pitbull turned around.
Probably the smartest thing that dog did.
+1 on this i was walking my rottwiler a couple years ago and a pit and another rottweiler hopped a fence n ran after us i ended up letting go of my dog picking up a rock n charged the rottweiler my dog charged the pit bull to some it all up the other rottweiler ran off and the pitbull and my rottweiler wrestled for like 15sec before the pitbull ran back home. damn dog probably saved my life
[edit] I did have no problem with this guy stabbing the dog but if what's being said now of the dog being off leash well the pitbull was leashed I take it back. [/edit]
I have a bully breed, an English Staffordshire bull terrier. This dog is stupid gentle, I've had him 11 years including the whole life span of my kid. My kid can step on him, pull his tail, pull his ears poke him in the eyes stick his hand in his mouth and he won't do anything except lick or walk away. I still believe it's mostly about the owner and how the dog was raised and socialized.
My guy is nearing the end of his lifespan, actually goes in for surgery tomorrow hoping to prolong it a bit. We love these guys to death, bring your dog up right and it will be a loving and friendly dog with no problems. I've had so many dogs growing up all kinds of breeds, this is by far the best one I've ever owned.
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+1 on this i was walking my rottwiler a couple years ago and a pit and another rottweiler hopped a fence n ran after us i ended up letting go of my dog picking up a rock n charged the rottweiler my dog charged the pit bull to some it all up the other rottweiler ran off and the pitbull and my rottweiler wrestled for like 15sec before the pitbull ran back home. damn dog probably saved my life
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I don't agree with just profiling a pitbull as "bad" to the point where they need to be banned.
But I think your lack of knowledge is affecting your reasoning.
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I honestly dont see how a Dog is bred OUT of aggression.
a dog is like a baby, how could a baby be born and first thing on its mind is "I m gonna grow up to hunt, kill, herd"
unless someone could give me scientific proof that a Dog can be bred into killing and all that I dont believe it.
You're kidding me right?
Dogs as you know them were bred to become how they are now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_domestic_dog
Dogs used to look like this:
Now they can look like this:
Clearly they look different. That little white thing wouldn't last a week in the wild.
Now are you telling me they behave the same?
Show dogs, herding dogs, hunting and guard dogs were specifically bred for their purposes. For their looks, coats, breeding qualities, intelligence and natural behaviors. Selective breeding further accentuates a desired quality, this is how you have things such as purebreds.
If you know anything about dogs, then you will know you can have entirely different behaviors out of the exact same breed of dog simply because of the breeding programs of their lineage.
This is why you can have a fluffy looking Samoyed be all well behaved around your family, but elsewhere in the world, they are still used as herding dogs.
You can take those dog's kids, raise them the same way, and they will have entirely different propensities to certain behaviors.
One will be a derpy lapdog, and the other one will tear your furniture to bits because it needs to be worked.
letter posted on facebook by the apparant owner of the pit. spoilered for length
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To everyone with an opinion who wasn’t there today to know what really happened,
The Pit Bull’s name was Pandora. She was six years old.
Ask me if I would let my very small child around this dog while I’m in another room? My answer is yes – absolutely. I did. Many times. And given the chance again, I would let that beautiful, intelligent, beloved dog care for my daughter in a heart beat. Sadly, I will never have that opportunity. My daughter has lost her best friend. That pit bull that was murdered today? She helped me raise, and care for my almost 4-year old daughter.
Was the pit bull off leash? No. She was not.
This was a clearly marked area: dogs should be kept on leash, as posted by the city bylaws. Funny thing is, it was this negligent old man who irresponsibly let his own dog run around freely: he did not have control of his own dog.
Today a man killed a dog. He screamed these words “You hurt my dog. You deserve to die” And then he took out a knife and repeatedly stabbed Pandora until she died. And as Pandora lay their lifeless, this old man fled the scene with his dog in an SUV.
Our family is in shock. In pain. We have lost our loved one. The real victim here was Pandora. My sister, a woman who has worked for and volunteered with the SPCA, who has fostered countless animals while they await adoption, who was been a dog walker, a dog groomer, has held jobs with pet stores and doggy daycares, who has just recently enrolled in a program to become a certified dog trainer, has lost her best friend. My sister’s passion is animals. She is sympathetic to the concern for the pug’s welfare that this old man may have felt in the moment. But his panic does not excuse his actions. The fact that he is “72 years old” or that Pandora is a certain breed does not justify what he did. He is a human being, but his actions were sickly inhumane.
Let me remind you that this is not your story to judge, nor is it your responsibility to decide who is right or wrong. Just as each human being is different, so are the pets we care for. The difference is, we as humans have the capacity to make choices.
Ignorance and misinformation will get the best of you. If you want the real story, I challenge you to stop hiding behind the safety of your screen and come see the family that Pandora has left behind. In fact, let this invitation be forwarded to the man that murdered Pandora. Come have coffee with my daughter and I tomorrow morning. Let me share with you my side of the story: what really happened this afternoon, as opposed to what the media is contorting this into, and then try to tell me who the victim is here.
I think it's pretty awesome he writes that whole thing and yet doesn't mention once or even take a HINT of responsibility about the fact that HIS DOG had another dog's NECK in his mouth.
I wasn't there and can't say for sure what would have happened, but it seems pretty likely based on the fact that the pug went for emergency surgery that there is a pretty good chance that a little more time could have meant the end for the pug.
How Pandora killing an old man's pug is somehow less of a tragedy than the old man killing Pandora to save his pug doesn't really make sense to me...
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