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Old 12-13-2013, 03:08 PM   #1
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They need to come up with a new small truck/sports truck, the Ranger is too limited in it's configurations, and it's build quality is sub par.

Seriously, what the hell happened to small trucks, our S10 is the perfect size for what we need, we don't need an F-150.
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are they counting different trims as "new models" ?



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My dad has a 05 Ranger its been pretty well problem free but the build quality is terrible and so is the interior materials along with being very uncomfortable to be in for more than an hour of driving and realistically not much better than an f-150 on gas as its the 4.0 v6

I never thought about trims being "new models" that could be what it is, the new Focus especially with the ST probably killed of any chance of that but who knows with 23 "new" models coming next year
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small trucks arent the future, half tonnes with turbo gasoline and diesel engines are
Half tonnes are too big, and with the ever present urban environment, larger trucks are not ideal. I want what I need, and that's all I want in a truck, I don't live in Langley with a 12 acre farm.
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23 new models......how about just improve the existing ones before just simply trying to flood the market.
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Half tonne (as they are advertised) trucks are not small by any means, the S10, Ranger, 620, and B-series are all examples of small/sport trucks. Ram's, F150's, and Silverado's are not small, half tonne refers to load capacity, not size.

What I am referring to are the "trucks" that are more like cars with truck beds, but are split between the two. Ford currently makes the Ranger, and Chevrolet currently makes the Colorado.

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Half tonne (as they are advertised) trucks are not small by any means, the S10, Ranger, 620, and B-series are all examples of small/sport trucks. Ram's, F150's, and Silverado's are not small, half tonne refers to load capacity, not size.

What I am referring to are the "trucks" that are more like cars with truck beds, but are split between the two. Ford currently makes the Ranger, and Chevrolet currently makes the Colorado.
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Half tonnes are too big, and with the ever present urban environment, larger trucks are not ideal. I want what I need, and that's all I want in a truck, I don't live in Langley with a 12 acre farm.
If there was a big market for smaller trucks they would make more of them. Demand pushes supply, if there is a dollar to be made they'll go after it but unfortunately you and your needs are in the minority.
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Half tonne (as they are advertised) trucks are not small by any means, the S10, Ranger, 620, and B-series are all examples of small/sport trucks. Ram's, F150's, and Silverado's are not small, half tonne refers to load capacity, not size.

What I am referring to are the "trucks" that are more like cars with truck beds, but are split between the two. Ford currently makes the Ranger, and Chevrolet currently makes the Colorado.
You're missing my point, i'm being mildly sarcastic. I have a 1/4 ton truck and honestly length wise they aren't much smaller than a half ton, especially in a regular cab short box configuration. Personally I really start noticing the difference in the width of the truck.
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Half tonne (as they are advertised) trucks are not small by any means, the S10, Ranger, 620, and B-series are all examples of small/sport trucks. Ram's, F150's, and Silverado's are not small, half tonne refers to load capacity, not size.

What I am referring to are the "trucks" that are more like cars with truck beds, but are split between the two. Ford currently makes the Ranger, and Chevrolet currently makes the Colorado.
Ford ended the ranger in late 2011.
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They need to come up with a new small truck/sports truck, the Ranger is too limited in it's configurations, and it's build quality is sub par.

Seriously, what the hell happened to small trucks, our S10 is the perfect size for what we need, we don't need an F-150.
For starters, as mentioned, the last Ranger was discontinued 2011 (for many reasons.)

YOU may not need an F150 sized truck, but YOU are not everyone. In fact, you are the MINORITY truck buyer.

That VAST MAJORITY of truck buyers need an F150 sized vehicle. In fact, 3 of the top 4 vehicles sold in the USA are Full-Sized trucks - BY A HUGE MARGIN.

Small trucks like the Tacoma do not even make the top 20!!!!!!

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Ford F - Series PU 688,810
Chevrolet Silverado PU 437,821
Toyota Camry 378,520
Dodge Ram PU 322,268
Honda Accord 333,804
Honda Civic 307,180
Nissan Altima 295,907
Honda CR-V 275,145
Ford Fusion 270,872
Toyota Corolla / Matrix 279,618
Ford Escape 271,531
Toyota RAV4 197,279
Chevrolet Equinox 220,980
Chevrolet Cruze 230,062
Hyundai Elantra 226,220
Hyundai Sonata 189,169
Toyota Prius 218,508
Ford Focus 219,001
Jeep Grand Cherokee 157,758
Chevrolet Malibu 185,101

The S10 or Ranger wouldn't do any of the things that I bought my F150 for, and I'm not a farmer!!!

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Probably! 20 of those 23 new models will probably be variations of the F150.
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