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01-15-2014, 11:18 AM
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Hi, I need to install interent for my rental suite. It is in a guest house so i am unable to share my current Shaw cable internet due to distance. I also dont know how to run coaxial or RJ wire to that house.
I have tried powerline (sucks, too weak for surfing), I have tried wireless extenders ( weak signal strength) . I need something good enough for youtube or even netflix or at least decent surfing and not take 3 mins to load a google home page.
Shaw wants me to get a separate account and charge me 29.95 for 6 month, then bump to $55. This is horrible because I am already paying $60 for the 20MB speed one on my main house.
Any suggestions on this? Any promotion from Rogers, or Telus or any other interent provider?
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01-15-2014, 11:22 AM
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Run an ethernet cable to the guest house. If you can't do it yourself, then pay someone to do it. It'll be cheaper than shelling out for another connection.
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01-15-2014, 11:39 AM
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As Presto said, get someone to lay down some good CAT and you should be good to go.
The cost might be slightly higher at the beginning, but at the rate ISPs are robbing us, it should make up the difference in no time.
On an alternative route, you could get a good set of outdoor WiFi repeater. Amped makes one (up to 1.5miles in open field) and I have heard many great words about it. Might be worth it to look into it.
The sorta nice thing about Amped setup is that it actually creates a new Wifi network that piggyback onto your current WiFi setup. It might make sense given you'd be sharing the internet access to your renter, but not actually sharing the network access.
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01-15-2014, 11:47 AM
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Well, you'll want a second router regardless of running wifi or ethernet, unless your current router supports guest mode.
Other than that, I agree with the above, either get a repeater/another access point, or just get someone to install the ethernet cable for you.
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01-15-2014, 11:55 AM
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Run Ethernet or power line 1/2 way to the location then attach a wireless router. I have a 30 plus year old 30 unit apartment building. The internet is on one side so I ran power line to the middle of the building and then attached a wireless router.
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01-15-2014, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by freakshow  Other than that, I agree with the above, either get a repeater/another access point, or just get someone to install the ethernet cable for you. | we did that on a construction site once where the incoming service was about 100' away. we didn't have any issues unless a dump truck parked in between us and the source 
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01-15-2014, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Presto Run an ethernet cable to the guest house. If you can't do it yourself, then pay someone to do it. It'll be cheaper than shelling out for another connection. | Where do i find a person to run the ethernet cable for me? Any referrals or types of worker i need to contact? Quote:
Originally Posted by Hehe The sorta nice thing about Amped setup is that it actually creates a new Wifi network that piggyback onto your current WiFi setup. It might make sense given you'd be sharing the internet access to your renter, but not actually sharing the network access. | Which Wifi repeater is good? let me know if i am missing a step:
1) powerline to corner closest to the Guest house.
2) Repeater connection to Powerline
3) ???? Do I need another repeater in the Guest house? or whats the next step.
P.S . I bought 2 Asus wireless repeaters with 3 antenna 6 month ago, and was unable to get steady signal. So i returned them. They advertise " high power" repeater..... I definitely need a better repeater this time.
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01-15-2014, 03:54 PM
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Whats your house layout like? Where is your cable modem located and how far is the guest from your house?
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01-15-2014, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! Whats your house layout like? Where is your cable modem located and how far is the guest from your house? | Cable modem is at the front end of the house. Guest house is at the back, separated by a smaller backyard, ~ 20 ft length backyard?
I dont know how far from front living room to back door length though ( pretty standard length house)
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01-15-2014, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wasabisashimi Where do i find a person to run the ethernet cable for me? Any referrals or types of worker i need to contact?
Which Wifi repeater is good? let me know if i am missing a step:
1) powerline to corner closest to the Guest house.
2) Repeater connection to Powerline
3) ???? Do I need another repeater in the Guest house? or whats the next step.
P.S . I bought 2 Asus wireless repeaters with 3 antenna 6 month ago, and was unable to get steady signal. So i returned them. They advertise " high power" repeater..... I definitely need a better repeater this time. | A setup I have seen is basically put the amped repeater outside of building 1 (line of sight), amped ap just outside of building 2, and the people in building 2 just connect to the ap.
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01-16-2014, 12:17 PM
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Take your wireless router and more it to the back of the house and plug it in. See what type of signal strength. It the signal strength is strong run POE to the back of your house and connect it to a wireless router.
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01-16-2014, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! Take your wireless router and more it to the back of the house and plug it in. See what type of signal strength. It the signal strength is strong run POE to the back of your house and connect it to a wireless router. | Wireless signal is weak at the back of my house.
I bought a powerline adapter, so I can have wired connection at the back of the house.
Do I need to buy 2 of these? http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=72976
One to hook up in the back of my house and the other one to put in Guest house? It is pretty pricy, $240 for 2.
Or do I need one of this http://products.ncix.com/detail/ampe...72973-1394.htm in the back of my house, and one of the Repeater in the Guest house. I am so confused sorry.
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01-16-2014, 02:19 PM
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Powerline.. 1 goes into the modem, the other to your router (unless you buy the wifi version) and of course, both needs to be plugged into the power outlet
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Ideally if you are to run cat5/6e to the geust house it should be done inside a buried pipe or else it will go bad from exposure.
There is zero connections from the main house to the guest?
Its not worth the cost to get another service installed imo running the wire will be a higher inital cost but will resolve any other headaches in the future when it comes to providing service there.
Distance is your biggest issue here, with the current location of the modem you have little chance of providing solid service to the guest house with repeater or extenders in my opinion. You could always wire a cat5e to a backroom than run an extender from there to get service tho I doubt
how good it will be unless you buy some really nice gear. Apples new ac wireless router is amazing for strenght and distance but cost a shit ton
Horizons is a cabling company tho I have seen pretty mix work from them so it will depend on the actually installer.
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01-16-2014, 04:32 PM
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in your setup i would suggest powerline/cable to the back of your house. then use a AMPED wireless AP. this should do the trick.
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01-16-2014, 05:30 PM
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Just make sure if youre running underground, use conduit, and leave a pullstring, and run 2 spare lines. You dont have to connect the spare lines but just in case.
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01-16-2014, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lilaznviper in your setup i would suggest powerline/cable to the back of your house. then use a AMPED wireless AP. this should do the trick. | Hi, do u recommend 1repeater at the back of house? Or do I need another one in the guest house to broadcast the signal. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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01-17-2014, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Manic! | I have that already, but it doesn't work in guest house. It's too far or perhaps on a separate power panel system. So it is used as you said before to extend internet to the back corner of my main house. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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01-17-2014, 01:37 PM
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^thats right, plug the other end as far back in the house as you can. Then hook up a wireless AP to it. You should be able to get a wireless signal from the guest house. Just make sure you don't use repeaters anywhere as they suck
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01-17-2014, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lilaznviper ^thats right, plug the other end as far back in the house as you can. Then hook up a wireless AP to it. You should be able to get a wireless signal from the guest house. Just make sure you don't use repeaters anywhere as they suck | This!!!
Do not plug it in your guest house plug it in at the back of your house closest to the guest house.
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01-17-2014, 03:17 PM
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get a cheap wireless USB
and a really long USB cable
usb cable maxed out at 5 meters.get a USB hub to extend to more than 5 meters.
tell the guest to use that USB to their laptop or desktop.
should be less than $50 at the end.
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01-17-2014, 05:56 PM
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why not just tell shaw to install an outlet at laneway house. i presume that's what it is. just tell them that family lives there. once the outlet is installed just buy a cheap modem from craigs and activate it. i believe shaw gives you 2 ip's. should work.
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Originally Posted by valent|n0 get a cheap wireless USB
and a really long USB cable
usb cable maxed out at 5 meters.get a USB hub to extend to more than 5 meters.
tell the guest to use that USB to their laptop or desktop.
should be less than $50 at the end. | Honestly that's a horrible suggestion.
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01-17-2014, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lilaznviper ^thats right, plug the other end as far back in the house as you can. Then hook up a wireless AP to it. You should be able to get a wireless signal from the guest house. Just make sure you don't use repeaters anywhere as they suck | So I don't need a repeater after all, just an AMPed high power wifi router?
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