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Old 03-19-2014, 10:36 PM   #26
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and what's so good about Snap On?

I have used one before...honestly, I didn't feel any difference..
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and what's so good about Snap On?

I have used one before...honestly, I didn't feel any difference..
Try using a Snap-On ratchet or torque wrench or something of that nature. Trust me, you'll notice a difference then. The difference between 20 and 40 gear teeth on a ratchet is huge. This is the only time I'll ever say that having more teeth in a tight spot is good.

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Old 03-19-2014, 10:46 PM   #28
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Looks like a nice set, does the paint chip from the black paint though? Been using my brother's mastercraft set for a long time now and he's probably tired of me loosing pieces.
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off topic. princess auto had 1/2" torque wrench for 18.50. I was there today and they still had the sale.

bought one for tightening my wheels. good quality for 18.50
I bought one for 20 bucks last year, Not much point in spending more for a torque wrench, because then you just have to pay for calibration, and that can become expensive, usually I use it for a year or 2 and then just buy another one.

Things to remember with a torque wrench:

1. Use another tool to snug up the bolts/nuts and only torque them down with the wrench.

2. NEVER EVER...EVER loosen bolts with a torque wrench.

3. Always slack off the torque wrench when you are done. The spring inside will lose its calibration very quickly if you leave it tightened.

4. Your 3/8 drive may say its good for 140 ft-lbs, but you should only ever go to about 90% of that value.
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Yes and no.

You want a good, accurate torque wrench for drivetrain use. A cheaper one for wheels and such is fine.
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Yes and no.

You want a good, accurate torque wrench for drivetrain use. A cheaper one for wheels and such is fine.
Thats fair for the work I do my $20 1/2 is good.

I do also have a 3/8 digital read-out, only ever gets broken out for important stuff (valve covers, transmission VB's, etc)
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i actually didnt know about you could lose your tool and stuff til i read this thread..

Figures... GT-R assholes never work on their own car
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I have the same Stanley set. No complaints at first, besides what someone mentioned about getting the sockets out of the molded case.

However now that I have air at home, and have bought a 3/4" impact and 3/8 air ratchet, I realize that the stanley sockets, extensions and rachets work great together, but they do not like working with the other tools, though they're the same size drive, they literally have to be hammered onto the other tools and pried off with a bar.

Their locking system where you push the button on the back of the ratchet to release the socket is proprietary, does not work with other brands, something to keep in mind.

I have since bought brand name sockets and use this kit when working outside of home.
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2nd for Stanley set - I just use the screw driver 1/4" socket to pry out the stubborn sockets. Not bad when it's on sale. For real car work I use my dads Hazet toolset
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off topic. princess auto had 1/2" torque wrench for 18.50. I was there today and they still had the sale.

bought one for tightening my wheels. good quality for 18.50
I would not trust an $18.50 torque wrench to properly torque anything.
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I bought one for 20 bucks last year, Not much point in spending more for a torque wrench, because then you just have to pay for calibration, and that can become expensive, usually I use it for a year or 2 and then just buy another one.

Things to remember with a torque wrench:

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2. NEVER EVER...EVER loosen bolts with a torque wrench.

3. Always slack off the torque wrench when you are done. The spring inside will lose its calibration very quickly if you leave it tightened.

4. Your 3/8 drive may say its good for 140 ft-lbs, but you should only ever go to about 90% of that value.
3 and 4 are incorrect. You shoud leave it with 3-5lbs ft on it or it can lose its torque capacity. Also if its max 140/240 whatever, if you want it to be on the money, use a bigger torque wrench. It is not accurate at its top and bottom scale.
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I have a similar set and it works just fine with all my other stuff.

The real danger of the back tools is accidentally slamming something on them. I always put tools on the fender lips where the hood rests and I've nearly slammed it on some sockets a few times.
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3 and 4 are incorrect. You shoud leave it with 3-5lbs ft on it or it can lose its torque capacity. Also if its max 140/240 whatever, if you want it to be on the money, use a bigger torque wrench. It is not accurate at its top and bottom scale.
So basically they were right...

I didn't say zero it, I said slack it off.

also I specifically said that you should not use them to max capacity, obviously that means that if you need to go higher you will need to get a bigger wrench.

I don't know what you do for a living, but I am a certified welder, and an A3 Millwright, in my industry 90% is pretty well the norm.
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I have the same Stanley set. No complaints at first, besides what someone mentioned about getting the sockets out of the molded case.

However now that I have air at home, and have bought a 3/4" impact and 3/8 air ratchet, I realize that the stanley sockets, extensions and rachets work great together, but they do not like working with the other tools, though they're the same size drive, they literally have to be hammered onto the other tools and pried off with a bar.

Their locking system where you push the button on the back of the ratchet to release the socket is proprietary, does not work with other brands, something to keep in mind.

I have since bought brand name sockets and use this kit when working outside of home.
I haven't used an air ratchet in years. Ever since I bought an 18v electric impact driver I use that for everything I used a ratchet for. I found air ratchets didn't have enough torque to remove a lot of bolts in the engine bay and if it did, it was slower then my electric impact driver.

Back to the topic of snapon tools. The only snapon tools I would ever buy are there hand ratchets, those things are awesome.
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So basically they were right...

I didn't say zero it, I said slack it off.

also I specifically said that you should not use them to max capacity, obviously that means that if you need to go higher you will need to get a bigger wrench.

I don't know what you do for a living, but I am a certified welder, and an A3 Millwright, in my industry 90% is pretty well the norm.
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good deal. Just dont buy jet tools from lordco. I had a 1/4" jet ratchet that failed after 4 months of everyday use. For those interested in snap on, check out williams tools. They are the same as snap on/blue point and cheaper.
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At least you guys get a Snap On truck. We only have MAC tools in our area
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I haven't used an air ratchet in years. Ever since I bought an 18v electric impact driver I use that for everything I used a ratchet for. I found air ratchets didn't have enough torque to remove a lot of bolts in the engine bay and if it did, it was slower then my electric impact driver.

Back to the topic of snapon tools. The only snapon tools I would ever buy are there hand ratchets, those things are awesome.
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Air ratchets are awesome working in tight places where you otherwise would've had to just use wrench or hand ratchets.
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I picked up this 128 piece mastercraft instead for $40. Realized I don't need that many tools for my car.

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Electric impact drivers are awesome but air ratchets and impact drivers both have their own purpose.
Air ratchets are awesome working in tight places where you otherwise would've had to just use wrench or hand ratchets.
I picked up one of these cheap from the states. Pretty much never use my air ratchet anymore.
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I picked up one of these cheap from the states. Pretty much never use my air ratchet anymore.
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Where'd you pick that up? I've been looking at getting exactly the same ratchet!
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I have my entire toolset intact (same one you posted minus the red paint, Mr. OP!) and it's been a few years, but I'm super picky about keeping a set as a 'set'

Then again, I never wrench outside of my garage

Still looking for a decent and cheap torque wrench for tranny/bottom end work --- have been eyeing this for awhile:
http://www.amazon.com/Neiko-8-Inch-F...5372295&sr=1-3

$30 and over 100 positive reviews? Means it must be good .. or the vast majority of people reviewing it are ruh-tards
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Where'd you pick that up? I've been looking at getting exactly the same ratchet!
I picked it up from CPO Outlets | New and Reconditioned Power Tools, Pressure Washers, Tankless Water Heaters, Vacuums, Ceiling Fans, and more! 2 months ago when they had their Milwaukee tool sale. Paid $119 + free shipping for the kit. There was a M12 promotion so it came with a free extra battery as well.
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I picked up one of these cheap from the states. Pretty much never use my air ratchet anymore.
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I was wondering how good this thing was, I already have a bunch of M12 stuff. Looks like this is my next buy!

Now if only Dewalt would come out with a 20V brushless impact wrench...
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