"You can speed but you can't hide" - Man behind bars after 180-km/hr joyride

[nma]

Originally Posted by PARANOiA-R34

The problem isn't the cars, it's the drivers.

With our current licensing system, mixed with the sad fact that is ridiculously easy to deem a piece of sh*t car as road-worthy, higher speed limits would result in more fatalities.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for upping the speed limit... BUT, do you really want the soccer mom painting her nails in the 2+ ton SUV to go faster? Ditto for the 70-year-old geriatric that can't see properly and has the reflexes of a turtle in quicksand (but is too arrogant to give up his license)? Or the new driver who wants to impress his buddies by weaving lanes on the highway? Or the C-Lai who needs to paint her pedals green and red so she knows which pedal to hit relative to the color of the traffic light? Etc etc etc.

Don't even get me started on the amount of poorly maintained cars I see with visible/audible engine issues, bad brakes, brake lights/headlights/turn indicators not working, people driving summer tires in the winter... should THEY be going faster as well?

IMO, a LOT of work needs to be done before we can even think about safely upping the speed limits... ESPECIALLY in BC. Let Supa's dashcam videos be a living testament to this rant.

As much as I agree with the majority of what you've said, we actually have a pretty golden standard as compared to the rest of the World (in terms of safety regulation and enforcement). While we have some of the lowest speed limits in comparison.
People here honestly whine WAY too much about shitty drivers. There are shitty drivers everywhere, it's just that in other places people get used to it and become more aware themselves. Try driving in Thailand, China, Malaysia, etc... You could compile Supa's life time footage in a couple of days.

[fliptuner]

Originally Posted by nma

....it's just that in other places people get used to it and become more aware themselves. Try driving in Thailand, China, Malaysia, etc... You could compile Supa's life time footage in a couple of days.

Except the driving culture is different from place to place, so people should adapt to what's acceptable, given where they are.

[nma]

Originally Posted by ICE BOY

Except the driving culture is different from place to place, so people should adapt to what's acceptable, given where they are.

So why are we so slow to accept the driving culture we live in?

[multicartual]

Originally Posted by nma

So why are we so slow to accept the driving culture we live in?

Look at our culture, we are so diverse and balkanized. Downtown if you walk 1 block over the people change sooooo much. Think we can all share a culture? Hell no!


Then go to the 3rd world and watch how they drive, they generally make it work because they share similar culture. Although down there people drink and drive like fucking maniacs!

[T4RAWR]

Originally Posted by sekin67835

He was found to be in breach of a conditional sentence order and was taken into custody.


Would he be arrested if he didn't have a breach?
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he was remanded into custody on sunday at 1:30am for a breach of cso.

richmond court probably doesnt operate on weekends so he probably saw a judge on monday morning, agreed to remain in custody until today when his breach of cso was processed...

[nma]

I guess my point was to highlight the safety and regulations aspect. Other countries who have worse - or the same level standards have higher speed limits. There doesn't seem to be a problem there, why would there be one here?

[Harvey Specter]

Full video of the chase;

Luxury car zooms at 180 km/h through Metro Van | CTV Vancouver News

[TOS'd]

Originally Posted by vo_hantu

correction to article: 220 max, 160 avg

what chu trying to say?

[Vale46Rossi]

Originally Posted by Lord Disick

Full video of the chase;

Luxury car zooms at 180 km/h through Metro Van | CTV Vancouver News

kind of boring =/

[Tone Loc]

Originally Posted by nma

As much as I agree with the majority of what you've said, we actually have a pretty golden standard as compared to the rest of the World (in terms of safety regulation and enforcement). While we have some of the lowest speed limits in comparison... Try driving in Thailand, China, Malaysia, etc... You could compile Supa's life time footage in a couple of days.

Originally Posted by nma

I guess my point was to highlight the safety and regulations aspect. Other countries who have worse - or the same level standards have higher speed limits. There doesn't seem to be a problem there, why would there be one here?

Most of the major cities in those above countries have massive congestion, so it's not possible to go over 30+ km/h in most circumstances. Also, the driving culture in those areas is completely different - having driven in the Philippines I can say that the rule is chaos, and that's why it works.

If you want to talk about countries with very high speed limits, let's talk about Germany. It takes a very long time to get a full license, insurance rates for young drivers are astronomically high, vehicles are fully inspected on a semi-regular basis after a certain age, etc. Drive a Civic at 140 and then a Jetta at 140 and you'll know what I mean regarding the quality of German cars relative to German roads - it's very very well-built.

Furthermore, because of the prohibitively high costs of driving in most of Europe, people tend to see driving as a privilege, and the majority of people take driving quite seriously. Here in North America, unfortunately many people see driving as a right... which results in their abuse of it. Just my $0.02

[JaeF]

Originally Posted by Lord Disick

Full video of the chase;

Luxury car zooms at 180 km/h through Metro Van | CTV Vancouver News

Was it really necessary for the cops to THROW the driver out of his car? The guy was "only" speeding, so aren't they using excessive force?

[donjalapeno]

Originally Posted by JaeF

Was it really necessary for the cops to THROW the driver out of his car? The guy was "only" speeding, so aren't they using excessive force?

..... he risked his own life and other road users life by excessive speeding, i think a little bruise on his arm won't hurt. Excessive speeding and driving without due care is a criminal offence i highly doubt the cops will prosecute him gently and cuff him with fluffy handcuffs so his wrists won't hurt.

He also refused to stop which would make things worse.

If it was NYPD the guy would probably end up with broken arms.

[jpark]

yea he refused to stop thats probably most likely why

[rb]

Originally Posted by JaeF

Was it really necessary for the cops to THROW the driver out of his car? The guy was "only" speeding, so aren't they using excessive force?

"If the police have to come and get you, usually they're bringing an ass kicking with them" - Chris Rock

[underscore]

Originally Posted by nma

As much as I agree with the majority of what you've said, we actually have a pretty golden standard as compared to the rest of the World (in terms of safety regulation and enforcement). While we have some of the lowest speed limits in comparison.
People here honestly whine WAY too much about shitty drivers. There are shitty drivers everywhere, it's just that in other places people get used to it and become more aware themselves. Try driving in Thailand, China, Malaysia, etc... You could compile Supa's life time footage in a couple of days.

They also get killed more frequently...

[R. Mutt]

I'll say this much, the island I'm from in the Caribbean is pretty third world. Traffic laws are rarely enforced and people do everything from DUI to driving on the shoulder to skip traffic. We saw a lot of rain their too and the road weren't well paved either.

While this made driving very frustrating there was a flip side. You never had to worry about a VI or being pulled over. I used to do some dumb shit when I lived there too...driving a Hyundai Elantra, of all things, at 180km/h for longer than I should, handbrake turns in residential areas....the most asinine things you can think of....because I knew there'd be no consequence to my actions. I'm lucky I didn't kill anyone or myself. In general, people pretty much drove at whatever speed they wanted without the consequence of losing their vehicle, licence or facing jail time. That's not to say everyone drove at ridiculous speeds...most stay around 100-130km/h on larger motorways and slower in the city.

I wanted an Evo since I was around 15 or 16 years old, and always assumed I'd get one while in living back in the Caribbean so I could enjoy it (all vehicles are RHD and subsequently we drive on the left side of the road). I've had a somewhat paradoxical life in the sense that's I've experience both meager and affluent lifestyles while growing up. Even when my family was pretty well off back home I was never given things simply because we could afford them, I was taught to earn what you wanted, take care of what you own (be it cheap or expensive) and never stop educating yourself. Even so my background couldn't come close to the level of wealth I see here in Van.

So years later after all the education and subsequent job, I finally have my evo. I'm much older, but the obsession and love of speed is still there but I live in Vancouver of all places.

Now that I have what I want after years of studying, working and patiently saving, you have no idea how frustrating it is to not be able to drive the bloody thing the way I want. It's like having your dream woman, legs spread begging for it and you're stuck behind an invisible wall. You can't see it but you know it's there and you better not fuck with it.

I'm older now and with experience comes maturity and knowing there's a time and place for everything - (IE I'll wait for autocross, trackday or street legals@Mission). The secondary reason that I don't speed or fuck around is because I know nothing would suck more donkey balls than losing one of the things that is most precious to me after all the years. Consequences to ones actions...that is very important and the real reason why most young drivers don't disobey laws. On the contrary, had I not waited, worked and saved; had the said vehicle been "given" to me then I think there'd be a much higher chance of not giving a fuck and speeding when I felt like it.

I remember one time I came home pretty late from work (2 or 3 am). I pulled into the underground parking for my building and could hear loud revving. Young car guy in me was like, "Ooo that sounds good I wonder what it is", adult in me was like, "What fucking clown is revving around the garage setting off alams?"

Sure enough a young male (looked no older than 21) was driving a white e92 m3 with volk wheels and with an aftermarket exhaust racing through the parkade, slowing down, revving and then racing some more. 3am...nothing better to do. Don't you have class the next day? Or work? No? Hmm....and therein lies the problem.

I like living in Vancouver despite it being a bit boring when compared to other places I've lived, but there's a sense of order and legitimacy to the way things work and how they get done. I suppose my appreciation for Van is a bit biased having come from a 3rd world country.

Regardless, things like this will continue to happen as long as people (irrespective of age and race) have little appreciation for the value of materialistic things.

[multicartual]

Originally Posted by R. Mutt

I like living in Vancouver despite it being a bit boring when compared to other places I've lived, but there's a sense of order and legitimacy to the way things work and how they get done. I suppose my appreciation for Van is a bit biased having come from a 3rd world country.

I lived in Costa Rica for a year, I totally understand your views on the 3rd world


Admittedly, I do enjoy sowing chaos a little, don't want things too boring and orderly!

[Verdasco]

was clapping when the cops brought him to the ground, fucker deserved it. Hope we find his face and spread it everywhere

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by JaeF

Was it really necessary for the cops to THROW the driver out of his car? The guy was "only" speeding, so aren't they using excessive force?

Dude is running from the cops... they have to ask themselves WHY he might be running? For all they know, he could be packing enough heat to the make The Terminator jealous. The last thing you'd want in an uncertain situation like that is to give the guy a chance to quietly reach over to the console and whip out a Glock while calmly smiling and say, "Yes, officer, what seems to be the problem?"

[StanleyR]

Originally Posted by ICE BOY

Except the driving culture is different from place to place, so people should adapt to what's acceptable, given where they are.

While living on the prairies (alberta and sask) I commonly got speeding tickets.

Ever since moving here I have yet to be stopped. Not that my speeds have decreased much, but it seems more acceptable to speed here ( I live dt and work in N/ Van).

[tarobbt]

Idiot deserved it. Did it say what ethnicity he is?

Sirens are on, you pull over regardless if he wants to stick it up your ass or he needs to clear the way.

Depending on ethnicity, he might not know the 'rules' of the road