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Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown revealed new details about Friday night's drive by shootings in Isla Vista during a Saturday morning news conference, including a new death toll and a possible link to an ominous YouTube video.
Brown said the initial call came in to dispatch at 9:27 p.m. Friday night as multiple gunshots.
Deputies in the area found several victims and received information about the suspect and vehicle involved.
Witnesses described seeing a black BMW speeding through the streets, spraying bullets at people and various targets near El Embarcadero and Segovia Roads and the top of the loop along Del Playa.
Brown said at 9:33 p.m. the suspect exchanged gunfire with deputies then veered down Del Playa and crashed into a parked car. Deputies found the suspect inside the BMW dead from a gunshot wound to the head. Brown said he did not know if the suspect was shot and killed by deputies or if the wound was self-inflicted.
The sheriff said a semi automatic handgun was recovered from the scene and believes the suspect acted alone.
In total, the sheriff confirmed seven people were killed, including the gunman; seven others are hospitalized either with gunshot wounds or traumatic injuries -- one with life-threatening injuries; there are nine separate crime scenes.
The time frame between the first 911 call to the discovery of the dead suspect was ten minutes.
Multiple witnesses say they saw two people inside the suspect's vehicle, however, during the press conference, Sheriff Brown would neither confirm nor deny whether there was a passenger in the car.
At this time, the sheriff is not releasing the suspect's name, although he has been identified.
Brown called the suspect "severely mentally disturbed" and said, "This was a premeditated mass murder."
Word on the street quickly spread about an ominous YouTube video posted by a young man who identified himself as Elliot Rodger, titled "Retribution." The nearly seven minute long rant blasts women who've ignored or rejected him over the past eight years and warns that he will "punish you all for it."
When questioned about the video during the news conference, Sheriff Brown indicated investigators were familiar with it and are looking into whether Roger was connected with the crime.
The victims include someone who was shot dead inside the I.V. Delimart on Pardall Road. The market windows are pocked with bullet holes. Another crime scene is marked near the 7-11 convenience store.
Xavier Mozejewski told NewsChannel 3 reporter Victoria Sanchez that he witnessed some of the violence and described it as an "old western shoot-out."
Michael Vitak, a student from the Czech Republic, told Sanchez what he witnessed.
"Guys in a BMW. Maybe they were trying to prove they're tough," Vitak said during a live televised interview. Vitak saw them shooting at two girls; one was shot dead, the other was critically hurt.
"I heard shots, screams, pain," said Vitak. "All emotions. I hope she is going to be fine," he said.
Vitak said it was too dark to see the suspects' faces.
About the same time the drive-by shootings occurred, the California Highway Patrol website logged a hit and run along Del Playa that left someone with major leg and head trauma.
NewsChannel 3 senior reporter John Palminteri said via phone, "It is a horrible scene out here."
Palminteri described multiple ambulances, a black BMW that slammed into as many as two cars, and a body covered with a yellow tarp lying in the road on Del Playa. He indicated the deceased may have been shot by a deputy or police officer.
By 12:15 a.m. Saturday morning, Palminteri updated viewers that he'd seen a total of four body bags.
One woman identified as Sierra told Sanchez she was approached by two men in a black BMW. The driver flashed a small black handgun and asked '"Hey, what's up?"'
Sierra, who was visibly shaken, said she thought it was an airsoft gun and kept walking. She said seconds later, she felt something buzz by her head and quickly realized they were bullets. Three or four of them.
Elliot is believed to be the son of Hollywood Director Peter Rodger (Assistant Director of 'The Hunger Games'), and stepson of Soumaya Akaaboune (from the cast of TV show 'Les Vraies Housewives').
Kids these days have it so tough. Drive a BMW, not bad looking, has a rich dad that gives him access to his fame and still can't get a girl. Went thru his FB and didn't even find a pic of him with a friend. This guy is a loner for a reason, he's fucking nuts.
To get a girl, he just needs one line. Yo you wanna go on a movie set with me sometime and check out my dad's work?
Intense shit, guy comes across with a well-spoken narrative to his own internalized misery. People without social skills go completely insane. Nerds like this with no skills end up full of fucking rage for everyone because they can't make friends, let alone get laid. That shit builds up in them and I'm sure they see porn and how many bitches the jocks get and that shit just plants a dark, dark fucking seed!
I think we'll see so many more of these types of mass-shooters, we're all so much more connected online but some slip through the social cracks and end up completely disconnected; even from their humanity.
This is the first time I can remember that I've seen a mass murderer leave behind so many videos online. And it's eerie as fuck to watch his videos and know that basically he was going to kill a whole bunch of people in 24 hours after uploading his videos.
Here's a interesting comment he made last week:
"I temporarily took all of my Vlog's down due to the alarm it caused with some people in my family. I will post more updates in the future."
So I assume his family knew he had issues and maybe were trying to get him help?
This guy is a loner for a reason, he's fucking nuts.
Growing up in a rich family maybe he was totally ignored by his busy parents and left to his own. People retreat into their own minds and end up fucking snapping. I wonder if this shit happens more often now than ever before because we're not connected personally to people much anymore and mostly through electronic devices?!
He complains that girls are attracted to the wrong type of guy, mostly douchebags, according to him. I understand his mentality because when I was younger I wondered why women were attracted to men who seemed to be unreliable and aloof.
Then I became unreliable and aloof and started getting mega pussy on Clubvibes!!!
I can't help but also feel some compassion for him. There are a lot of guys out there who can't get laid at all while there are other guys where pussy falls into their laps so easily; he's right, life isn't fair.
May God punish his soul for killing innocent people over his own personal failings
I bet the guys been on some kind of anti-depressants... which the media may not reveal.
It also sounds like hes fixated on the dreams that Hollywood sells... every ones having lots of sex and ones goal to land the most beautiful of girls of his "status".
edit - from his Google profile
Quote:
Introduction
My name is Elliot Rodger. I was born in the UK, but moved to the United States at the age of 5. I grew up in Calabasas and Woodland Hills, California. Currently, I am attending college in Santa Barbara, and while there I am staying the the town of Isla Vista. I have tried very hard to fit in with the social scene there, but I have ultimately been unable to do so. There are too many obnoxious people who have ruined my whole experience at that place.
I consider myself a sophisticated, polite gentleman, unlike most boys my age. My father is of British descent, and my mother is of Asian descent, so that makes me a Eurasian. I enjoy hiking, exercising, watching sunsets, traveling, cars, fashion, going to nice restaurants, and going to parties. I have traveled all over the world, ever since I was a child. So far, I have visited ten countries, including Great Britain, the United States, France, Spain, Greece, Germany, Mexico, Singapore, Malaysia, and Morocco.
every ones having lots of sex and ones goal to land the most beautiful of girls of his "status".
That's the truth though, people are having crazy amounts of sex and it pushes the quiet and introverted even farther to the fringes of society. Also the status thing is very important. I'm 36, and even though I've boned hot waitresses in the past, it's embarrassing to think that I would have to introduce a girlfriend as an Earl's waitress.
I don't think he was gay either, LGBTZQXY groups are very inclusive and gay kids generally can find a place to fit in. Where does a hetero dork go to be accepted? Hetero culture is highly group-competitive!
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He spent his childhood being told what a special perfect snowflake he was by his homeschooling mama. then he got out in the real world all egotistical and poorly socialized. he thought he could make up for his social awkwardness with a nice car, clothes, and sunglasses. when that didn't work, he decided biches were the problem.
that little retarded faggot is so fuckin deep in the closet.
I'M A PERFECT AMAZING GUY WHY DON'T BITCHES WANNA FUCK ME. DERP DERP DERP.
if he had died in a single car wreck and burned to death i'd be masturbating in joy. unfortunately he did that classic coward move and went after random innocents. typical bitch move from a little ****** ass bitch.
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wtf.... i didnt think he'd be interested in women from listening to the first few minutes of his video i thought he was gay... maybe thats what all the chicks were thinking too
he comes across as creepy as hell too in that video...such a shame for the victims my god rip
To get a girl, he just needs one line. Yo you wanna go on a movie set with me sometime and check out my dad's work?
Not always that simple.
These types of guys, who don't get laid are so easy to compete with. It doesn't matter if you're rich or connected, if you give off creep vibes, or that you wanna bang so bad, they pretty my self destruct all their "laying" chances themselves.
It's a pity because even without looks, this guy has a few things going for him like you mentioned. He just totally played his cards wrong.
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