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Old 04-26-2015, 04:27 AM   #10226
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we have expendable parts that can help us acquire other needed prospects such as dmen, or to move up in the draft with kassian, jensen, higgins/hansen, lack/markstrom.

bieksa/hamhuis will not waive in the offseason, trade deadline is possible but i still doubt it. higgins probably wont be moved as he just had a kid + limited ntc


tldr version: bitching fans have been spoiled too long by a team that can make the playoffs. its a transition, dont expect cups, be happy with a winning regular season and playoffs. team has enough good 2way prospects to be relevant in about 3 years & theres a chance at 1st line center in the draft.
Trev and Benning got their "get out of jail free card" with the fans. Playtime's over. The tone of this franchise is gonna be set in the next two years. Harsh words, but as many have said, we would hate to have to dislike Trevor Linden and suddenly call him a terrible Has Been who stuck around the game too long.
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, we would hate to have to dislike Trevor Linden and suddenly call him a terrible Has Been who stuck around the game too long.
No one will ever supplant "MacT" from that role
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Most of us here realize that the Canucks overachieved this season given what they have, no question. But we're looking at this on a micro level. Even if they were the best of the mediocre teams and clinched a playoff spot and we should be happy, you're still in the playoffs so you should be putting the best product you have on the ice. What sense does it make when you have Horvat who has been one of the best players in the series play fewer minutes than players like Dorsett who was struggling all game.

But then they also lose in the fashion that they do repeatedly. This team who have had their share of catastrophic meltdowns in recent years still manage to find a way to push that bar further down with this series loss and while the Flames were the better team the series was anyone's to take.

So when you have a coaching staff who seems to be resisting at playing the younger guys more there's reason for concern moving forward as to what opportunities guys like Shinkaruk, Jensen, Corrado and co. will have if and when they make the team. Fans have already accepted the fact last year that we'll deal with the growing pains and mistakes of the younger guys if we get to see them more on the ice.
As a side note, BoHo more than likely wouldn't have even been given a chance to play this season under Torts/AV. I like what WD/JB/Linden have done this year. It's a learning process for all three and if we keep trending in this fashion, we'll do alright.
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Benning needs to do a better job with contracts. Aside from the Tanev extension, the other contracts (Dorsett, Sbisa especially) have ranged from average to albatross.

I don't want to get into the situation Boston finds themselves in currently.

Also, how is Jordan Subban still unsigned? Tick-tock, 2 months left before he re-enters the draft.

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^ Maybe cuz he sucks? I haven't been watching him... but I don't think any of us combined are qualified to judge hockey talent more than Benning and I'm sure a detail oriented guy like him is well aware of the contract situations with all the players they currently own the rights to.
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Also, how is Jordan Subban still unsigned? Tick-tock, 2 months left before he re-enters the draft.
2 months is quite a bit of time....

Should be more worried when there's a week/few days left and he's still unsigned
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What position are the pens, canucks and jets drafting?
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What position are the pens, canucks and jets drafting?
Pens don't have their first. They traded it to Edmonton for Perron

16th - Edmonton (from Pittsburgh)
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23rd - Canucks

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Hey that draft at least puts us projected to get Klyington
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Then you click his name the the site suggests he'll go top 10, likely top 5
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lol guy who wrote that:

Profile from: Eldon MacDonald of The Hockey Writers - updated Oct. 19th

looks like Kylington has fallen down the rankings since then
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I'm ok with that!!
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23rd is worst case scenario for us.

The 4 teams that make it to the Conference Finals will get 27-30 (30th to the Stanley Cup Champ, 29th to the runner-up).

If those 4 teams are CGY, MIN, DET/OTT, and NYI/WSH, we'll pick 19th. For each of those teams that doesn't make it to the Conference Finals, we pick 1 spot worse.

So I guess we're cheering for Calgary now
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regardless of the pick, I hope we trade up.
I get the sense that we will and there will be a blockbuster at the draft.

Highly doubt Benning scouted around for no reason. I think he's got every intention to move up and acquire a 2nd and 3rd round pick.
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well the Wild are up 2-0 right now. Blues just put in Elliot
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23rd is worst case scenario for us.

The 4 teams that make it to the Conference Finals will get 27-30 (30th to the Stanley Cup Champ, 29th to the runner-up).

If those 4 teams are CGY, MIN, DET/OTT, and NYI/WSH, we'll pick 19th. For each of those teams that doesn't make it to the Conference Finals, we pick 1 spot worse.

So I guess we're cheering for Calgary now
Good to know

Apparently the Canucks dropped 4 draft positions because of the win vs Edmonton in the finale

Could've been picking at 18/19 rather than the 23rd they're currently projected at....
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Good to know

Apparently the Canucks dropped 4 draft positions because of the win vs Edmonton in the finale

Could've been picking at 18/19 rather than the 23rd they're currently projected at....
19th with the possibility of picking as high as 17th if CGY and OTT make Conference Finals.

While retaining home-ice advantage in the first round
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regardless of the pick, I hope we trade up.
I get the sense that we will and there will be a blockbuster at the draft.

Highly doubt Benning scouted around for no reason. I think he's got every intention to move up and acquire a 2nd and 3rd round pick.
That's what every single Canucks fan thinks every single draft.
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That's what every single Canucks fan thinks every single draft.

You got to admit, the magic that burke pulled off in 1999 was probably the most exciting draft a canucks fan ever had. We'd have to go on an epic tank buffalo style for something like that to happen again.
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who'd EAsports say will win cup?
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First time it was LA over Boston.

Second try was Anaheim over NYR
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