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Old 07-31-2014, 10:54 AM   #26
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Being able to finance a CLA AMG does not classify a person as rich in my books.
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driver was released from custody today

interested to see how this all plays out.

My guess is this story will drop from the radar, and the driver will get off with little more than a slap on the wrist.
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everytime i hear about rich kids causing stupid shit i think of this scene

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It'd be interesting to see if the merc's CPU can tell how fast he was going before impact...
Yes they can. Airbags would be deployed and they can tell the speed the airbags were triggered at and if the driver had their foot on the accelerator or brakes. They should also be able to get several seconds of driving data before the airbags went off.



So police are looking for a third vehicle. Skid marks at the scene lead them to believe another vehicle was witness to the accident, but didn't stick around.

Only two possibilities I can think of:

- The other driver was racing with the Mercedes, realized he's in deep shit and took off.
- The other driver had nothing to do with the accident at all, but left because they didn't want to stick around to wait for the police. Perhaps they were also drinking and were worried of being caught driving impaired, even though they did nothing wrong.


Regardless, the witness is a POS for not sticking around.
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little more than a slap on the wrist.
Why do people keep saying this? If you Google search for drunk drivers in BC you get lots of stories of people getting prison time for drunk driving causing death.

I'd like someone to point me to a case where a person was actually convicted of impaired driving causing death and never spent a day in jail. Not a case that went to trial and the person was found not guilty - that's a completely different matter altogether.


It sounds like the police will have a good case here since they were able to apprehend the driver at the scene and perform a breathalyzer on him.
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Wow. I'm sure everyone has made mistakes in the past. Wishing death upon this guy for making an absolutely horrid decision? Not so sure I agree with that. RIP to the driver.

Also, to be honest, pretty sick of all the retarded assumptions people make here.. "Fucking rich c-lai probably get his parents to pay for a sick lawyer.."
"fucking asshole blah blah blah"

Yeah, because every decision you've made in your life has been perfect, and you've never had someone bail you out when you made a stupid one. You should have probably ended your life on the spot.
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Wow. I'm sure everyone has made mistakes in the past. Wishing death upon this guy for making an absolutely horrid decision? Not so sure I agree with that. RIP to the driver.

Also, to be honest, pretty sick of all the retarded assumptions people make here.. "Fucking rich c-lai probably get his parents to pay for a sick lawyer.."
"fucking asshole blah blah blah"

Yeah, because every decision you've made in your life has been perfect, and you've never had someone bail you out when you made a stupid one. You should have probably ended your life on the spot.
It's just a game of statistics. The probability that this is the case is just so absurdly high that it doesn't make sense to not think that.
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Wishing death onto someone is harsh, yes.

But stupid choices with catastrophic consequences for people that had absolutely nothing to do with said stupid choice, is rather hard to defend by saying "nobody's perfect."

Also, he is a fucking asshole, and years of experience living in Vancouver will dictate that the severity of his punishment is directly related to how wealthy he or his parents are. And every single CLA I've seen was driven by an Asian. It's not racial stereotyping, it's an educated assumption based from experienced statistics.
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I can't piece it together in my head. It was a rear ender, but the MB ended up facing north in the southbound lane. Was the Del Sol stopped mid-span? And from this photo, it appears there were two other vehicles involved?



This one's a head scratcher.
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Wow. I'm sure everyone has made mistakes in the past. Wishing death upon this guy for making an absolutely horrid decision? Not so sure I agree with that. RIP to the driver.

Also, to be honest, pretty sick of all the retarded assumptions people make here.. "Fucking rich c-lai probably get his parents to pay for a sick lawyer.."
"fucking asshole blah blah blah"

Yeah, because every decision you've made in your life has been perfect, and you've never had someone bail you out when you made a stupid one. You should have probably ended your life on the spot.
I have made many stupid decisions in my lifetime, the difference here is that my stupid decisions never resulted in the death of an innocent bystander.

As discussed in like every other thread on DUI, impaired driving goes beyond "just a stupid mistake", it is an active decision made generally by idiots.

An eye for an eye, is what I say.
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Wishing death onto someone is harsh, yes.

But stupid choices with catastrophic consequences for people that had absolutely nothing to do with said stupid choice, is rather hard to defend by saying "nobody's perfect."

Also, he is a fucking asshole, and years of experience living in Vancouver will dictate that the severity of his punishment is directly related to how wealthy he or his parents are. And every single CLA I've seen was driven by an Asian. It's not racial stereotyping, it's an educated assumption based from experienced statistics.
Not just Vancouver, that's how the world works. I'm not defending him, I just don't wish death upon him.
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I have made many stupid decisions in my lifetime, the difference here is that my stupid decisions never resulted in the death of an innocent bystander.

As discussed in like every other thread on DUI, impaired driving goes beyond "just a stupid mistake", it is an active decision made generally by idiots.

An eye for an eye, is what I say.
That's pretty ignorant. I know many people who have made the mistake of driving impaired. Luckily they didn't kill anyone and became smarter themselves. You make stupid decisions when you're drunk, that doesn't mean you're a terrible person or a complete idiot when you're sober.
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I can't piece it together in my head. It was a rear ender, but the MB ended up facing north in the southbound lane. Was the Del Sol stopped mid-span? And from this photo, it appears there were two other vehicles involved?



This one's a head scratcher.
That photo was taken in daylight, hours after the accident. I think it said 4am was when the accident occured.

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Jesus look how long those skid marks are, anyone want to guess?
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Jesus look how long those skid marks are, anyone want to guess?
From roller to fixed end, the bridge is 732 meters, on the north end the roller end is just out of the picture, on the south end the fixed point is out of the picture by quite a bit. My guess is between 100 and 150 meters

EDIT: Oh wait, the main span, between the two supports from expansion joint to expansion joint is 284m. So the upper range of my initial guess is probably pretty close.
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Why do people keep saying this? If you Google search for drunk drivers in BC you get lots of stories of people getting prison time for drunk driving causing death.

I'd like someone to point me to a case where a person was actually convicted of impaired driving causing death and never spent a day in jail. Not a case that went to trial and the person was found not guilty - that's a completely different matter altogether.
Thats the thing, is there are plenty of clear instances where they are guilty but found innocent due to loopholes or weird circumstances. Thats where high paid lawyers come in. They aren't there to get you reduced sentences, they are there to get you found not guilty. I can think of some shitfuck cop named monty robinson who comes to mind.
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the aggressor's name and age has not been revealed yet...let's not jump to conclusions as common as CLA are to a certain demographic.
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Wow. I'm sure everyone has made mistakes in the past. Wishing death upon this guy for making an absolutely horrid decision? Not so sure I agree with that. RIP to the driver.

Also, to be honest, pretty sick of all the retarded assumptions people make here.. "Fucking rich c-lai probably get his parents to pay for a sick lawyer.."
"fucking asshole blah blah blah"

Yeah, because every decision you've made in your life has been perfect, and you've never had someone bail you out when you made a stupid one. You should have probably ended your life on the spot.
No one said anything about a c-lai, so quit putting words in peoples mouths. If you are willing to drive wasted you are selfish, useless piece of shit and the antithesis of what society should be willing to accept of people. There are too many people in this world, and these are the type of people that are a fucking cancer on this earth.
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No one said anything about a fucking c-lai, so quit putting words in peoples mouths. If you are willing to drive wasted you are selfish, useless piece of shit and the antithesis of what society should be willing to accept of people. There are too many people in this world, and these are the type of people that are a fucking cancer on this earth.
I didn't say anyone here said it, those are just examples of generals assumptions.

I think most people make terrible decisions while they are wasted. That's the whole point, the decisions you make while intoxicated are different than when you are sober. So no, I don't think that these people are usesless scum. I think they just need to plan better and realize the impact of potentially driving intoxicated.

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I didn't say anyone here said it, those are just examples of generals assumptions.

No one is "willing" to drive wasted. That's the whole point, the decisions you make while intoxicated are usually terrible.
Look buddy, god forbid if any of your friends or family are ever hurt or killed in an incident like this, but if it were to ever happen I guarantee that you would lead the damn lynching yourself if that ever became the case.
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If you cant control decisions that are that important when you drink, you shouldn't be drinking.
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Wow. I'm sure everyone has made mistakes in the past. Wishing death upon this guy for making an absolutely horrid decision? Not so sure I agree with that. RIP to the driver.

Also, to be honest, pretty sick of all the retarded assumptions people make here.. "Fucking rich c-lai probably get his parents to pay for a sick lawyer.."
"fucking asshole blah blah blah"

Yeah, because every decision you've made in your life has been perfect, and you've never had someone bail you out when you made a stupid one. You should have probably ended your life on the spot.
Getting drunk and then driving fast enough to be able to smash the rear end of a del Sol hard enough to kill the occupant is far, far beyond a mistake/bad decision, anyone willing to do that is a worthless piece of trash who should be treated as such.
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If you cant control decisions that are that important when you drink, you shouldn't be drinking.
Yeah, that's probably a whole other issue. I'm not sure if previous generations were like this, but it seems like everyone just tries to drink as much as possible and binge out, as if it were some sort of competition.
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LOL Are you serious? Pretty sure over-drinking isn't a new thing. Anything else this generation wants to take credit for?
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