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Old 11-26-2014, 08:47 PM   #1
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Christmas/Boxing day TV's + 4K

Sony 55" 4K Ultra HD 120Hz 3D LED Smart TV (KDL55X830B) - Black : 53 - 59 inch TVs - Best Buy Canada

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Samsung 55" 4K Ultra HD 60Hz LED Smart TV (UN55HU7000FXZC ) - Black : 53 - 59 inch TVs - Best Buy Canada

somewhat hard to find reviews on either TV from what ive seen so there may be rebranding in the states etc. or different model numbers

have always been partial to Sony, and for the extra money would prefer the 120hz stats and reviews seem fairly even, any opinions?

is there a better option for about $1800 taxes in?

have also seen the Samsung UN55HU6950 for similar pricing

probably will wait until after xmas maybe, or try to get a deal from openbox but these are kind of the 2 candidates at the moment
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If you do decide on the Samsung HU7000, wait until Friday.

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Hmm..tempting price

Just really don't want to get 4k at 60hz, feel like buying old technology that I'll regret later on.

Apparently the upscaling on the samsung though is incredible
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I'm debating on the HU7000 as well.

HU7250 is on sale too which is 120hz with the curved screen. 55 inch for $1600. Not sure if it's worth the $300 just for 120hz.
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I'd personally never buy 60hz for my primary tv.

Nor would I buy LG or Samsung.. but that's just me!
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I'd personally never buy 60hz for my primary tv.

Nor would I buy LG or Samsung.. but that's just me!
What's your reason for not getting a Samsung or 60hz? What would you get?
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The curved screen is too much for me, mounted on the wall the sides side way too far off the wall.

I don't mind 60hz set but I find my Sony sets which are 120hz to have a way better image
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I just have friends who bought Samsung because spec-wise, you get a lot for your money but they don't seem to last. One example, 7 years ago a friend and I each bought an LCD the same weekend. He spent a little less on a "better" Samsung and I spent a little more on the "lesser" Aquos. Mine is still working great today and he replaced his a year or 2 ago. He's not the only one who's Samsung product didn't last.

As for the refresh rate, I watch sports so 60hz isn't going to cut it. I don't want to see a tail behind the puck or a choppy image. Minimum 120 for me but I'll probably spend even more and go 240 when the time comes.. unless a deal on a 120 is too hard to ignore.
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has Samsung's reliability not improved in the last 7 years?
I just bought one and awaiting shipment...not 4K but a plasma since they're officially phased out.
FYI Samsung and LG makes a lot of the panels for their competitors in the monitor business...would not surprise me if they did the same in the HDTV market esp the IPS panels
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i used to be a fan of samsung thanks to their styling and pricing but all samsung products i've encountered have failed miserably just outside of warranty (2 tvs & a dvd player) and when looking for fixes seeing all the endless results of people with similar problems left me with a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to Samsung

so I switched back to solely buying Sony I already had 1 set that's still going and and two more still going strong

so, i, would recommend Sony


I know the LGs have a great offer on their 4K set as well so does Sony for that matter but the Sony is still pricier than LG/Samsung, I would even suggest looking at the LG over the Samsung

last I recall for the 70+" sets Sony uses an LG panel this year
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My pick of the two posted would be the Sony.

May be a little off topic...

But is 4k content available? Like on blu rays and such?
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But is 4k content available? Like on blu rays and such?
sony has a 4k player, but i think its only available in the US currently with a small library (70? edit correction 200 movies) 4k movies edit2: only works with Sony 4k tvs

no blu-rays yet, they're expected to start coming out next summer/christmas

+ 4k youtube content etc, streamed 4k which is meh

edit: oh and 4k Netflix

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so really no point on jumping on this until a couple years down the road.

I was thinking next tv to be curved 4k but I guess I can wait a few years for that. I'm glad I didn't get a 3D tv.

To the OPIE, save your money and buy a top-ish of the line LED HDTV 1080p 120-240hz tv. By the time content is readily available for 4k tv's they will have better TV's and sorry to say it but your tv will then be considered old news. No point in spending extra moolah on 4k if you're just gonna be playing playstation, streaming netflix nd content and watching blu ray's.
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Meh, from everything I've read on avsforum 4k content will be readily available by the end of next year.

The 120hz sony XBR is only $1800. That TV will be good for 6-10 years minimum. 2k isn't much for that length of life considering the 52" rear projection Panasonic we have at my parents house was over 4500 back in 04

Also the top top tier 1080p TV's are still pushing 9-1100. Another $1000 for sonys top tier 4k TV (albeit an early entry into the market) isn't that unreasonable
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in a few years OLED will likely penetrate the market and you'll wanna upgrade again....a perfect black = pixels off.

I'm in the buy what you need now camp...if you're streaming 4K netflix/youtube videos and 4K games via steam then sure...but if you're expecting all major studios to push their new films on 4K blu-ray by next year i wouldn't hold my breath and be happy with your current 1080p. I would make an exception if you're trying to go big ie. 46" upgrading to a 65"
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yea, its basically upgrading the main living room's 40" to an upsize

From everything i've read it's basically gonna be go with the Sony, or go with a higher end 1080P set. the Samsung is out of the question

only thing is again, not very many reviews at all on the KDL830 and it seems like it's only available in Canada
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I've been looking @ the LG UG8500. 4K, 120hz, 3D and somewhat future proof (the whole hdmi 2.0/hdcp 2.2 deal) compared to the other TV I was looking @ getting (Sony X850B).

LG 49 inch is $1099
Sony 49 inch is $1499. Also 3D apparently is broken on this TV according to people on avs

Edit: Picked up the LG 49 inch from Walmart. Says $1099 online but scanned for $988. Futureshop has it for $1199 until end of day.

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Please let me know what you think about it when you get it set up
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4k content isn't ready yet.
Those YouTube or any streaming source 4k are heavily compressed.

I wouldn't jump on those 4k tv yet.

But I will wait for 4k projector.
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I just have friends who bought Samsung because spec-wise, you get a lot for your money but they don't seem to last. One example, 7 years ago a friend and I each bought an LCD the same weekend. He spent a little less on a "better" Samsung and I spent a little more on the "lesser" Aquos. Mine is still working great today and he replaced his a year or 2 ago. He's not the only one who's Samsung product didn't last.

As for the refresh rate, I watch sports so 60hz isn't going to cut it. I don't want to see a tail behind the puck or a choppy image. Minimum 120 for me but I'll probably spend even more and go 240 when the time comes.. unless a deal on a 120 is too hard to ignore.
My 6-year old 52" Aquos is still running as good as the day I bought it.

Re refresh rate: TV broadcast is only 60Hz and those extra frames you see in "120hz mode" that make you think the video is smoother are all fake, made up by TV's processor.
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Sorry for for newbie question. The HU7000 is 60hz but has the "CMR240". How is this 60hz native/CMR 240hz different from a 120hz native/cmr 240hz? Is there an option to enable and disable this technology? Currently I have a 60hz/120cmr Sony tv and never noticed any options for it.

I'm debating the 40" H6350/H6400 (120hz and 240 cmr) vs the HU6950 (4K, 60hz and 240 cmr). I do watch sports half the time. I feel dumb paying for a TV that has been around for years now (H6350 lineup or any other Samsung 1080p LED SmartTV, and the 4k was just a little bit more in price. I could justify that if I get a usable UHD panel that will be more "futureproof", although we all know that word is obsolete in the electronics world.
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I have a 60 inch Samsung right now that looked huge when I bought it 2 years ago, but it's starting to look tiny.... so I can't see myself getting a 4k set at 60 inches though, what do you guys think of Seiki's new line of Pro models.. I would want to get the 85 inch...
I know it doesnt have the features of Sony or Samsung, but similar warranty and pretty good specs

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seiki's been pretty quiet about that line...i dont expect it to come out for another 6 months

even at 85" i dont see myself paying over $2K for a chinese brand...it's just not established enough to guarantee its reliability.
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Basically my choice will be determined on Boxing Day I thjnk.

Another TV I've been looking at that is extremely highly reviewed is the KDL-W800B

Hate the look of the plastic bezel though
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Sorry for for newbie question. The HU7000 is 60hz but has the "CMR240". How is this 60hz native/CMR 240hz different from a 120hz native/cmr 240hz? Is there an option to enable and disable this technology? Currently I have a 60hz/120cmr Sony tv and never noticed any options for it.

I'm debating the 40" H6350/H6400 (120hz and 240 cmr) vs the HU6950 (4K, 60hz and 240 cmr). I do watch sports half the time. I feel dumb paying for a TV that has been around for years now (H6350 lineup or any other Samsung 1080p LED SmartTV, and the 4k was just a little bit more in price. I could justify that if I get a usable UHD panel that will be more "futureproof", although we all know that word is obsolete in the electronics world.
I would like to know this as well! Any input appreciated.
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