Another plane crash |
that's terrifying |
this is getting quite troublesome. are airplanes even safe anymore? |
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50% of all accidents are human error (or some number like that) - looks like this is human error, air asia appears to be human error, the malaysia air over ukraine was human action. flying is fine, humans are the problem. and we also fly so much more now that in absolute terms shit will happen more, but relatively it's never been safer |
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Pay more money = get bigger name plane, hope it won't crash. :fullofwin: |
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Car crashes happen everyday, is it even safe to drive anymore |
Damn...video is "Private" now....under investigation me thinks. I am always terrified when I fly....this just pushes that button further, ugh! |
Hahaha, be afraid... Be very afraid... |
Video can still be found on this page: Taiwan TransAsia plane crash: Watch shocking moment aircraft drops from sky and hits bridge - Mirror Online |
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I hate flying :heckno: |
i assumed AR was being sarcastic since he flies boony planes to boony locations for a living |
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blurry but from the car that's behind the cab most passengers on board were mainlander tourists. This is very troubling for transasia...they just had a crash less than 6 months ago that killed 48...as if it's trying to outdo China Airlines notorious record of 700+ casualties :( Top 10 Most Dangerous Airlines |
that's one lucky cab driver.. where's denzel when you need him |
search captain sullenberger, dude is a hero. FUck small airlines, these big airlines mostly hire people from the military |
-just saw the CBC news anchor (asian dude) interview a commercial pilot about the emergency protocol a pilot follows in these situations. Protocol: 1) Pilot quickly attempts turning on and off the engine to get it to work. 2) Pilot or co-pilot cuts off the fuel if engine doesn't turn on to prevent explosion upon crashing. 3) Pilot or co-pilot makes a distress call to the control tower to request emergency services and provide location. You'll notice from the video of the plane when it crashes that there's no huge fireball from an explosion. Fuel cutoff by the pilot? It's a miracle that there are twelve survivors, including one infant, from the crash. My guess is that one of the plane's engines stopped working. Some of these regional Chinese airlines have spotty maintenance done on their planes. -remember seeing this huge number of wires sticking out of an overhead panel near my seat of an East China airlines plane. :heckno: |
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If you've done any sort of research into airplane accidents, it is never one issue which caused the crash. But a combination of small things, which on their own don't bring down and a/c. It's when they are combined a disaster can happens. Flying in Asia is scary. I tell my family not too, but for some reason I still do it myself, probably because I know the risk is still relatively low. Although higher with some of these airlines. |
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From what I understand, left engine flamed out, pilot performed the necessary mayday procedures, avoided all buildings and structures but could not avoid the bridge, crashed in an open area away from people. |
I know for light prop twins, you lose 70% of power when one engine becomes inoperative. So I'm guessing, the pilot didn't have enough altitude to turn back for the runway and had to sacrifice airspeed to maintain altitude. Airspeed drops below VMC then the operating engine's yawing effect overpowers the corrective inputs from the pilots. Shorty after, the yawing causes the plane to bank and then stalls. To be honest, I think the pilots did a great job flying away from populated areas as best they can, since that airport is located in the centre of Taipei. And their extremely lucky to have the plane hit the river, because once the plane stalls like that, the plane is flying them and not the other way around. |
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an interesting issue, certainly - i'd still rather have computer control with human review than complete human control (unless denzel is flying it... drunk). as for asian airlines - if the airline can't fly in US airspace, I won't fly on it. that's the only way to decrease your risk from shit maintenance. a friend of mine who flies A340s recommends I fly with non asian pilots (not racist) as he says it's a cultural thing for the co pilot to not speak up LOAD if something is wrong, as was seen in the SF Aseana crash those years ago, co pilot spoke up/warned, but pilot knocked him down, then crashed. |
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