Judge rules Mountie lied at inquiry into Robert Dziekanski's death Judge rules Mountie lied at inquiry into Robert Dziekanski's death Quote:
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Bentley probably thought he was free and clear too. I wonder what their sentence is going to be. Given the high profile of the incident, you'd think they would get a fairly substantial punishment - although I also wouldn't be surprised if they were suspended w/ pay. |
Feel kinda sorry for this guy. Rookie? |
They killed him. |
soooooo how many years in jail you guys think? |
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Second-degree murder Definition: A deliberate killing carried out without planning that does not fall under any of the categories of first degree murder. Sentence: The minimum sentence is life in prison with no parole for 10 years, but sentences can be as long as life in prison without parole for 25 years http://everything2.com/title/Crimina...%2520continued |
Second degree murder, not likely. Afaik, only 2 Canadian PO's have ever been convicted of murder. Category:Canadian police officers convicted of murder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia edit - vitaminG is right, my bad. |
knowing how fucked our government system is I wouldnt be surprised if he gets a slap on the wrist.. |
If I'm not mistaken he's only been found guilty of perjury. Where are people getting murder from? |
Wonder how long his suspension with pay will be. |
Am I reading it wrong but he's only convicted in perjury and not the death of Robert. |
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How is this going to be a punishment? He will essentially be getting a paid vacation, but for a not very good reason. I'd say suspension without would be more appropriate. For a few months. If he wants to make money during that time, he should go look for a job somewhere else or maybe do some cleaning/maintenance for the police department or something. It's just gonna cost us tax payer more money because we'll be paying a guy who is virtually doing nothing + pay for an over-time wage for different police officer whoever is covering his shift. |
A lunatic with a heart condition died as a result of a trigger happy officer testing out his new equipment excessively. If they wrestled him to the ground they could have broken his neck and killed him too. Ultimately, its just a set of unlucky and unfortunate circumstances. Nothing more to see here. |
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Happened in 2007 and now 2015. Why is it taking this long with a video proof and everything. |
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He's a lunatic? The man was just trying to immigrate here, instead we treated him like an animal. They kept him couped up in the airport for hours, wouldn't tell his family where he was, and eventually he was shot with a taser and killed in the hands of those who are here to serve and protect us. You are comparing the death of someone by taser, to the remote chance that wrestling him to the ground would break his neck? Jesus christ. There is a lot more to see here, the 4 officers involved LIED WHILE UNDER OATH, their actions have already been deemed as non-justifiable, and you claim there is nothing more to see? I think there is plenty more to see, like these 4 disgraces being fired, and perhaps being charged criminally. He was one fucking guy, just a construction worker in his country not a black belt, or an MMA fighter. And he was confronted by 4 fucking PO's who are trained in disarming people, and hand to hand combat. This incident had no reason whatsoever to end the way it did, a JUDGE EVEN STATED THAT. So you coming in here claiming he is a lunatic, and that he died because of his own health problems, is not only incorrect, it's downright disgusting. |
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EDIT: Full inquiry is listed here: http://www.braidwoodinquiry.ca/whats...8.pdf#zoom=100 That's where I am pulling quotes from. |
^ that can't be an exact quote, because when I search for it I can't find it. Regardless, I can agree that multiple tazerings may have been excessive, however I find it odd that the fact he was throwing suitcases and furniture around the airport frequently seems to be downplayed. |
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And the fact that he was aggressive isn't being downplayed, but you have to look at the entire scenario the poor guy was put through. He takes a flight from poland to here, his first time ever on an airplane, he's by himself, doesn't speak a lick of english, he has done nothing wrong, his papers are in order, they clearly state he needs a translator to complete the customs paperwork, etc. He is then put into the hands of CBSA agents who take a frightening situation for the guy, and make an absolute debauchery of the process, the guy spent like 10 hours in the baggage claim area of the stupid airport, of course after that sort of period anyone would be fed up, compound that on top of the other things he had gone through that day and the guy was obviously on edge. He is then surrounded by 4 officers, who don't even attempt to read the scene instead they almost immediately pull a tazer and shock the guy to his death. Anyone who thinks that entire process above was some sort of a success, or just an "unlucky and unfortunate circumstances", is truly an idiot. |
^^ Meme405, I am a little hazy on the exact proceedings of Mr. Dziekanski's poor fate, but I am reasonably certain that the various news reports were all reporting that he has hardly been getting any sleep at all throughout the ordeal (probably starting from the moment when he boarded the flight?). People are naturally not quite themselves when they are deprived of sleep. When you add all the anxiety factors into the equation, it is hardly surprising that he responded the way he did. Sigh... such a tragic turn of events... :( |
^It was a long time ago, and I think most of the public like myself had moved past the incident, but the inquiry in 2010, and this new verdict bring all the bad memories of the incident back. It really makes you think what Mr. Dziekanski's poor family, and especially his mother must be going through even after almost 10 years. That's the person I feel the worst for in this entire ordeal his mother. I've been back and reviewed the pretty vague timeline since this most recent case, this is more or less how it went down as everyone understands it: -Mr Dziekanski arrived in Vancouver at 3:15PM - This is after an exceptionally long flight from Frankfurt since his plane was delayed over 2 hours. -Among dealings with CBSA and other issues with language barriers not much is known about what happened during his time from 4pm till about 11pm. But he was basically at the mercy of the CBSA people, trapped in the baggage area of the airport. -From about 11pm till midnight he was finally dealt with and cleared for entry into Canada. -Once Dziekanski was taken to the arrivals area of the airport his Mother was not there, because she had been told he had never arrived on his flight (she was lied to), she waited there from some time early in the afternoon till 10PM, until finally leaving to go back to kamloops. -Dziekanski at this point what I can only assume frustrated to no end, unable to communicate and probably dead tired after the entire ordeal was visibly distraught and the police were called, and the end result of that we all know. The situation is so sad because you can only wonder, had his mother have been there, had she not been lied to about his whereabouts for like 6 hours, had she not left almost 3 hours before he was finally cleared for entry, this story might still have had a happy ending. Instead it's an all round tragedy. |
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Basically what I'm trying to say is that everyone fucked up here, and unfortunately all those fuck ups aligned and tragically cost a man his life. |
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