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they're not really allowed to random stop, however, it was argued many many years ago (80s iirc) that random stops is a reasonable limit on the Charter as it deals with public/road safety which is a benefit to the gen pop
They pulled you over because the area you were in and the time of night, the not matching the registered sex of the vehicle owner was just icing on the cake. They wanted to see if a) you were drunk or b) if you were alone just trolling for drugs or hookers.
Chucky the solution is quit trolling for hastings hookers at midnight and the popo will leave you alone.
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This is what you should do
1. Get a lawyer and sue the police
2. Get your story printed on every single newspaper, news outlet, Internet, radio stations, talk shows
3. Profit!
Now every police car and undercover in my view will put me in stress.
I have to conceal any Marajuana I have in the car... think of excuses for being late in my affairs.
Why would he run your plates if you didnt do anything wrong?
This is police state bull shit... if people were pulled over in Saudi Arabia on suspicions... people would say thats what you get for living in a authoritarian state... with big brother police state tactics.
Come to Canada to live in a free country.
I suspect why they pulled me over... but they used an "unmatched registered owner" excuse... so I want to also use a profiling excuse in court so that
1) they wont target me again 2) get monetary compensation for PTSD
can i get monetary compensation from you for PTSD? im now afraid to read posts in case it maybe posted by CiC which may cause my brain to explode
I got pulled over because I was driving my sisters car and she's the registered owner. She lives in downtown and I was in Burnaby. They asked me where she lived, named ..etc. It is just a routine check. I'm sure the officer does not have anything against you. Dont get your panties in a bunxh. It is Not worth stressing over.
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Im not really "back"... and I still have you on my ignore list
LOL. If you're still checking what was written then you are ignoring nothing. You're just creating an extra step to read something. As usual, you're only fooling yourself. Bravo.
Canada is a "bastion of freedom"... they shall provide me a lawyer for my charter rights.
actually... you need to make an application for legal aid. a lawyer is not simply provided to you. also, there has to be a risk of jail and the matter has to be a criminal offence. you are provided the opportunity to obtain free legal advice from a duty counsel/lawyer but that is at the time of an "arrest" where your charter rights are read to you.
you were issued a violation ticket which does not require you to be arrested and thus, does not require you to be chartered. if you want to pursue legal means civilly or for your VT you will have to pay for that yourself.
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Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge
The ticket is valid, unless the judge does a 360
Other times this happens when the police coincidentally catch a CIA smuggler but the courts throw out the case because there was no probable cause to get pulled over. (constitution rights [USA] violated as an excuse?)
generally, with the exception of a very few amount of courts (usually in small towns) your matter will be heard by a justice of the peace, not a judge.
the ticket is of course valid, a justice of the peace or potentially a judge, may overturn the ticket but that will be up to you to dispute in court. you will have a chance to provide your evidence (which in this case seems non-existent) and the officer will provide his/her evidence.
i dont think that a justice of the peace or judge will overturn the ticket in this instance given that the officer has satisfied reasonable and probable grounds that you operated a motor vehicle contrary to requirements of the motor vehicle act by not having in your possession a valid driver's licence. it would be easy to prove given that, A) you failed to produce your driver's licence when you were stopped and B) it would be simple enough for them to call up ICBC and ask if you had a valid licence on such and such date.
my advice is to just pay the ticket early to get the discount.
good luck with the civil suit, if you win your case make sure to update us here.
Look at how the backup car positioned himself... he was standing outside and along corner while 3 young ladies just happen to be walking down the side walk. (cant make out people in video)
A little embarrassing.
Welcome back CiC I for one missed you being gone!!
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Euro7r
I was heading over to my buddies place at 5AM in the morning once and the cop pulled me over and asked me if I was the registered owner of the vehicle because it is registered to a female (my mother) and I told them it's my mom car.
Cops just trying to make sure the vehicle isn't stolen etc.
Most likely not in my case.
A little more detail into my case is that last year I had consecutive no insurance tickets... this racked me up $800. Kept doing it because it doesnt count as points on your license... thing is I wasnt aware of the near 360 beam their camara's have.
The police are using these very advanced big brother tools to enforce their police state.
I also played some friendly "freeman on the land" games over a decade back before it was popular. With my license being expired... they pretty much pulled the van over to see if its me to ticket and tow. Thats fucked, the police state has its net out to catch you before you even break any laws on the road.
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Originally Posted by CRS
For someone that's pretty snide about telling others to read books, you'd figure that they would know a 360 is a full circle resulting is no change of direction.
A 360 means going back to where you started. Get with the times man.
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Originally Posted by quasi
They pulled you over because the area you were in and the time of night, the not matching the registered sex of the vehicle owner was just icing on the cake. They wanted to see if a) you were drunk or b) if you were alone just trolling for drugs or hookers.
Chucky the solution is quit trolling for hastings hookers at midnight and the popo will leave you alone.
This is downtown Vancouver where the car is registered... not some small town or suburb.
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Originally Posted by Manic!
What the fuck man, my brown ass does not count?
You're indian Caucasian.
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Originally Posted by moody
I got pulled over because I was driving my sisters car and she's the registered owner. She lives in downtown and I was in Burnaby. They asked me where she lived, named ..etc. It is just a routine check. I'm sure the officer does not have anything against you. Dont get your panties in a bunxh. It is Not worth stressing over.
It was probably an excuse to pull you over and catch you off guard to find something... or they profiled you as a criminal.
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Originally Posted by Presto
LOL. If you're still checking what was written then you are ignoring nothing. You're just creating an extra step to read something. As usual, you're only fooling yourself. Bravo.
It took me a long time to build up my ignore list... it lets me keep track of the trolls and sheeple.
actually... you need to make an application for legal aid. a lawyer is not simply provided to you. also, there has to be a risk of jail and the matter has to be a criminal offence. you are provided the opportunity to obtain free legal advice from a duty counsel/lawyer but that is at the time of an "arrest" where your charter rights are read to you.
you were issued a violation ticket which does not require you to be arrested and thus, does not require you to be chartered. if you want to pursue legal means civilly or for your VT you will have to pay for that yourself.
So the Charter rights freedoms is exclusive to people who have money to get a lawyer? I'll file at the U.N. human rights branch. What ever to try and keep these guys away from bugging me in the future.
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Originally Posted by T4RAWR
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my advice is to just pay the ticket early to get the discount.
good luck with the civil suit, if you win your case make sure to update us here.
Thanks, I will pursue it and keep you guys updated.