VPD in the news: aggressive window smash on drug suspicion
 

http://blogs.theprovince.com/2015/03...ine-firestorm/

thoughts? although we dont have full details but looks like the dude getting arrested has some charges filed against him re: possession and even intent on trafficking.



YouTube video taken from the inside of a vehicle on a rain-soaked November night in Vancouver is piling up the views as the online community piles onto both parties involved.

On one side of a semi-cracked window are two members of the Vancouver Police Department, who have, according to the driver taking the video, pulled him over for what is described as a “motor vehicle infraction.”

“Hit the brakes, you moron,” shouts a VPD sergeant through the slightly opened driver side window, after some initial confusion.

“Turn the car off, now,” instructs the sergeant, who the poster of the video, a man who calls himself Bodhi Sattva on YouTube, apparently identifies in the title.

“Sir, why have you pulled me over?” the driver replies, in as polite of a tone he can muster. “What have I done?”

“I smell marijuana coming out of the vehicle,” says the sergeant.

Another officer sticks his nose to the window crack and confirms the suspicion.

“Yup, you are under arrest,” he says.

What follows next is some back and forth between the driver and the sergeant, who insists the car door be opened.

“I’m gonna break the window,” the sergeant threatens, before doing just that.

The Vancouver police confirmed on Sunday night that the driver was charged with possession of a controlled substance, possession for the purposes of trafficking and obstructing a police officer.

“While the video clearly doesn’t show the entire encounter between the driver and police, the officer clearly stated the driver was under arrest and asks him several times to get out of the car,” said VPD Const. Brian Montague.

“Despite the multiple warnings, the driver fails to do as instructed. I can only guess this is because he is trying desperately to distract from what he has inside his vehicle of buy time to figure his way out of the situation.” Montague said.

Hundreds of online observers have commented on the video, with some agreeing the arrest was warranted and others screaming police abuse.

The CBC had a legal expert weigh in, who says that within the context of the provided video, the police did not tell the driver exactly why he was pulled over, therefore conducting an unlawful arrest.

While Const. Montague could not disclose the initial reason for the driver to be pulled over, he sees it differently.

“It is quite simple. If someone does not want the police to use force then they need to comply. We never have to use force with a co-operative person.”

The driver has not made any official complaint about the incident, according to police, who are not able, at this time, to provide his identity, why he was pulled over in the first place and what exactly was found in the vehicle.

Thoughts? That was well deserved, roll down the window answer some questions and if there was nothing out of the ordinary he's on his way.

Ow, my shoulder, sir!

Lol, if you got nothing to hide then why bother creating an issue for yourself.

I wish a cop abuses my rights for once.... would be a nice downpayment for a small condo

:facepalm:

because idiots.

if he wasn't doing anything wrong, he should comply and just jump through the hoops, and then be on his merry way.

if he was doing something wrong, he was doing it wrong, cuz he got caught.

although the cop should have gone into robotic regurgitating info mode and just be reciting the reason for pulling over and why he has to step out and then proceeding to force him out of the car... i guess the cop shoulda jumped through his procedural hoops as well.

I don't understand the "logic" behind these armchair lawyers who want to make it hard for cops to do their job - and ultimately make their own lives harder in the process. All I know is, there's a guy here with a badge and a gun who can legally impound my car and make my life very difficult (like handing me a VI for my Corolla)... so why aggravate him/her? Especially if I'm not doing anything wrong.

Personally I have never had a problem with police, just be polite, do what you are instructed to do, 99.9% of the time you will be treated the same way.

People need to realize this isn't the USA...

That being said, the cop isn't perfect either. He probably shouldn't have called the guy a "moron", and if he just answered the guy in the first place as to why he was under arrest and what grounds he had to arrest him, maybe this whole thing could have been avoided.

Thoughts? This idiot created and escalated the issue himself, good on the officers.

dealing drugs and still acting so cocky when pulled over :lawl:

cop: i smell marijuana
retard: no you dont

yup, we got ourselves a bonified moron. cop really should have pulled the glass towards him to shatter it but pretty satisfying how that played out. IM JUST WAITING FOR ME MAYTE

what did the cops pull him over for initially?

I fucking hate douche bags that act like that. Saying "sir" a bunch of times doesn't make you creditable. Same with "I know my rights". It makes you look guilty as fuck and is just plain annoying.

The best part is how they will use the video as evdience to support the obstruction of justice charge lol

The guy is an idiot.

Who the hell a lawyer on speed dial. Also what did he think would happen if he called his lawyer at night?

jp, and WW have Saul on speed dial, whats ur point :whistle:

i hate these video camera tough guys....

rookie...he obviously don't get pulled over much. Here's a tip...

"The driver has not made any official complaint about the incident..."

Of course not, that would require actually having to prove his case. Putting the video on YouTube and crying about being the poor innocent victim is a sure-fire way to get support without having to actually prove anything.

I agree that he should have just complied with the officers. BUT he was very clear and calm, and somewhat respectful. The officers should have told him why they pulled him over or why they are arresting him.

A simple "we have suspicion that you are operating s motor vehicle under the influence of a narcotic." And then if the kid does not comply, THEN step it up as he is obstructing justice.

Both could have done a bit better

Good for VPD

although he most likely will get off on a technicality.

We don't know that they didn't... the video conveniently starts partway into the encounter.

In fact... note how he asks repeatedly why the cops pulled him over, then at 0:43 he makes it clear he knows why: "you pulled me over for a motor vehicle violation!"

Ten bucks says the cops DID state the reason, he DID get it on video, and he edited it out... then we he asks repeatedly for the reason, it makes him seem reasonable, and the cops not so much.

Inb4 cop dashcam video is released backing up this theory... :accepted:

Are we required to fully roll down our window when pulled over? I can recall at least one time I rolled it down only a couple inches to pass my license and reg through on a cold ass night and the officer didn't seem to have an issue.

^ I don't believe you are, but you are required to exit the vehicle when you're being arrested for possession for the purpose of trafficking.

I fucking hate people like this, if you're going out of your way to make someones job harder because you have a carrot up your ass you're an idiot, plain and simple. And if they're gonna insist on making the polices job harder, they better be 110% sure they are doing everything flawlessly (like CiC wasn't a few weeks back) or they're gonna have a real bad time since they don't have to do you any favours either.