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And I had read that the deal Carolina gave for Lack was the best one out there. EDM didn't wanna give any draft picks for Lack. So maybe it's just me but I believe we got the best we could... Not saying I like it and personally I woulda preferred Lack over Markstrom, but if they had to trade one or the other I understand why they trade the one that gets you the most
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Schneider went for 9th overall. He also had 2 years remaining and had substantially better stats, pedigree, etc. than Lack did. Schneider was a bonafide top 15 goaltender in the league at the time he was dealt, is now a bonafide top 10. Brodeur kept the starter's job, not because of merit, but because of history. They basically had to toss his ass out because he wouldn't retire when he should have.
Lack is ... maybe top 25? What's his potential realistically? Will he ever be a top 15 goaltender in the league? Pending UFA doesn't help his trade value, either.
We all know Benning should've traded Miller, went with a Lack/Markstrom combo, and signed Lack to a 2- or 3-year extension, but the only place we could send Miller, realistically, was San Jose and they didn't want him (plus, as we found out with Bieksa, Doug Wilson can be an asshole to deal with).
We have a goalie pipeline that became overcrowded. Lack is the only one that could get return (who the fuck will pay for markstrom and Miller has his 6m cap hit)
Miller has a fat contract. Sure he is a starter but too expensive for most teams. We couldve dealt him, but probably at the cost of retaining salary and another roster player.
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Well............ in his defence, he is supposed to be a scouting and drafting savant. I don't think anyone said much about his trading/signing abilities.
We already been through this, Schneider played behind a President's Trophy Canucks team. Lack played for Tortorella and Desjardins.
Defensively, those teams weren't any worse.
Tortorella's team couldn't score because Torts destroyed everyone's creativity, confidence, soul. We scored 5 fewer goals under Willie than we did in the '11-'12 season and allowed fewer shots than any of AV's seasons ('10-'11 to '12-'13).
In fact, Schneider faced 1.6 shots/game more than Lack did.
The year that Lu and Schneider won the Jennings, we faced 30.1 shots/game (2468) and they allowed 2.20 goals/game (180) for a combined save % of 92.7%.
Over 3 years ('10-'11 to '12-'13), we faced an average of 30.1 shots/game (6381) and allowed 2.30 goals/game (486) for a combined save % of 92.4%.
Under Tortorella, we allowed 28.4 shots/game (2329) and allowed 2.63 goals/game (216) for a combined save % of 90.7%.
Under Desjardins, we allowed 29.8 shots/game (2444) and allowed 2.68 goals/game (220) for a combined save % of 91.0%.
Now, here's the real kicker: when you compare Lack and Schneider when they face 35+ shots in a game.
Lack faced 35+ shots in 16/86 of his games (18.6%) and had a 91.0 Sv% in those games. Lack went 7-4-5 and allowed 4+ goals in 10 games (62.5%).
Schneider faced 35+ shots in 25/98 of his games (25.5%) and had a 94.3 Sv% in those games. Schneider went 14-7-4 and allowed 4+ goals in 5 games (20%).
Well............ in his defence, he is supposed to be a scouting and drafting savant. I don't think anyone said much about his trading/signing abilities.
I know some teams have a GM that does all these... but Canucks organization should open up another new role.
Public speaking for the press - Linden
Scouting/drafting - Benning
Trades/Contract negotiations - ???
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Date Team Acquired Relinquished Notes
2014-05-21 Canucks Jim Benning hired as GM
2014-06-17 Canucks David Booth waived
2014-06-23 Canucks Willie Desjardins hired as head coach
2014-06-24 Canucks Pascal Pelletier signed with Medvescak Zagreb (KHL)
2014-06-27 Canucks 2014 second round pick (#50-Roland McKeown) Jason Garrison, rights to Jeff Costello, 2015 seventh round pick (#204-Jack Sadek) trade with Lightning
2014-06-27 Canucks Jake Virtanen first round pick (#6 overall)
2014-06-27 Canucks Nick Bonino, Luca Sbisa, 2014 first round pick (#24-Jared McCann), 2014 third round pick (#85-Keegan Iverson) Ryan Kesler, 2015 third round pick (#84-Deven Sideroff) trade with Ducks
2014-06-27 Canucks Derek Dorsett 2014 third round pick (#85-Keegan Iverson) trade with Rangers
2014-06-27 Canucks Jared McCann first round pick (#24 overall)
2014-06-28 Canucks Gustav Forsling fifth round pick (#126 overall)
2014-06-28 Canucks Kyle Pettit sixth round pick (#156 overall)
2014-06-28 Canucks Mackenze Stewart seventh round pick (#186 overall)
2014-06-28 Canucks Nikita Tryamkin third round pick (#66 overall)
2014-06-28 Canucks Thatcher Demko second round pick (#36 overall)
2014-06-28 Canucks Linden Vey 2014 second round pick (#50-Roland McKeown) trade with Kings
2014-06-30 Canucks Jordan Schroeder team declined to tender qualifying offer, making player an unrestricted free agent
2014-06-30 Canucks Linden Vey team tendered qualifying offer, making player a restricted free agent
2014-06-30 Canucks Yann Sauve team declined to tender qualifying offer, making player an unrestricted free agent
2014-06-30 Canucks Zac Dalpe team declined to tender qualifying offer, making player an unrestricted free agent
2014-06-30 Canucks Brandon DeFazio team tendered qualifying offer, making player a restricted free agent
2014-06-30 Canucks Christopher Tanev / Chris Tanev team tendered qualifying offer, making player a restricted free agent
2014-06-30 Canucks Darren Archibald team tendered qualifying offer, making player a restricted free agent
2014-06-30 Canucks Joe Cannata team tendered qualifying offer, making player a restricted free agent
2014-06-30 Canucks Peter Andersson team tendered qualifying offer, making player a restricted free agent
2014-06-30 Canucks Yannick Weber team tendered qualifying offer, making player a restricted free agent
2014-06-30 Canucks Zack Kassian team tendered qualifying offer, making player a restricted free agent
2014-07-01 Canucks Alex Biega player became an unrestricted free agent
2014-07-01 Canucks Andrew Alberts player became an unrestricted free agent
2014-07-01 Canucks Benn Ferriero player became an unrestricted free agent
2014-07-01 Canucks Colin Stuart player became an unrestricted free agent
2014-07-01 Canucks Jeremy Welsh player became an unrestricted free agent
2014-07-01 Canucks Mike Santorelli player became an unrestricted free agent
2014-07-01 Canucks Pascal Pelletier player became an unrestricted free agent
2014-07-01 Canucks Alex Biega re-signed unrestricted free agent to a 1-year, $600K contract
2014-07-01 Canucks Bobby Sanguinetti signed unrestricted free agent to a 1-year, two way, $600K contract
2014-07-01 Canucks Ryan Miller signed unrestricted free agent to a 3-year, $18M contract
2014-07-02 Canucks Cal O'Reilly signed free agent
2014-07-02 Canucks Dustin Jeffrey signed unrestricted free agent to a 1-year contract
2014-07-02 Canucks Radim Vrbata signed unrestricted free agent to a 2-year, $10M contract
2014-07-04 Canucks Joe Cannata re-signed restricted free agent to a 1-year, $600K contract
2014-07-04 Canucks Yannick Weber re-signed restricted free agent to a 1-year, $850K contract
2014-07-04 Canucks Zack Kassian re-signed restricted free agent to a 2-year, $3.5M contract
2014-07-05 Canucks Christopher Tanev / Chris Tanev re-signed restricted free agent to a 1-year, $2M contract
2014-07-05 Canucks Peter Andersson re-signed restricted free agent to a 1-year, $600K contract
2014-07-07 Canucks Doug Lidster hired as assistant coach
2014-07-14 Canucks Linden Vey re-signed restricted free agent to a 1-year contract
2014-07-22 Canucks Brandon DeFazio re-signed restricted free agent
2014-07-22 Canucks Darren Archibald re-signed restricted free agent
2014-07-24 Canucks Jared McCann signed 2014 first round pick to a 3-year entry level contract
2014-07-25 Canucks Jake Virtanen signed 2014 first round pick to a 3-year entry level contract
2014-08-11 Canucks Perry Pearn hired as assistant coach
2014-09-12 Canucks John Negrin invited free agent to training camp
2014-09-12 Canucks Kane Lafranchise invited to training camp
2014-09-12 Canucks Kent Huskins invited to training camp
2014-09-17 Canucks J.T. Wyman invited unrestricted free agent to training camp
2014-09-21 Canucks Austin Lotz invited to training camp
2014-09-21 Canucks Curtis Valk invited to training camp
2014-09-21 Canucks Spencer Humphries invited free agent to training camp
2014-09-23 Canucks Austin Lotz released
2014-09-26 Canucks Jacob Markstrom waived
2014-09-26 Canucks J.T. Wyman released (CBS)
2014-09-27 Canucks Alex Biega waived
2014-09-27 Canucks Bobby Sanguinetti waived
2014-09-27 Canucks Brandon DeFazio waived
2014-09-27 Canucks Darren Archibald waived
2014-09-27 Canucks Dustin Jeffrey waived
2014-09-27 Canucks Peter Andersson waived
2014-11-20 Canucks Will Acton Kellen Lain trade with Oilers
2014-11-25 Canucks Andrey Pedan Alexandre Mallet / Alex Mallet, 2016 third round pick (?-?) trade with Islanders
2015-01-02 Canucks Tom Sestito waived
2015-01-11 Canucks Henrik Tommernes signed with European team Tappara-Liiga (Finland)
2015-01-29 Canucks Adam Clendening Gustav Forsling trade with Blackhawks
2015-02-12 Canucks Brandon McMillan claimed off waivers (from Coyotes)
2015-02-23 Canucks Tom Sestito released
2015-02-28 Canucks Brandon McMillan waived
2015-03-02 Canucks Cory Conacher Dustin Jeffrey trade with Islanders
2015-03-02 Canucks Sven Baertschi 2015 second round pick (#53-Rasmus Andersson) trade with Flames
2015-03-14 Canucks Ashton Sautner signed undrafted free agent to a 3-year entry level contract
2015-03-16 Canucks Ben Hutton signed 2012 fifth round pick to a 3-year entry level contract
2015-03-24 Canucks Christopher Tanev (CBS SN Y) / Chris Tanev (CBC E) re-signed to a 5-year, $22.25M contract extension
2015-03-29 Canucks Joseph Labate signed with the Utica Comets (AHL) to a professional try-out contract
2015-04-08 Canucks Derek Dorsett re-signed to a 4-year contract extension
2015-04-08 Canucks Luca Sbisa re-signed to a 3-year contract extension
2015-04-30 Canucks Joseph Labate signed 2011 fourth round pick to a 2-year entry level contract
2015-05-12 Canucks Mackenze Stewart signed 2014 seventh round pick to an entry level contract
2015-05-14 Canucks Jordan Subban signed 2013 fourth round pick to a 3-year entry level contract
2015-06-01 Canucks Miles Liberati unsigned draft pick, will re-enter 2015 NHL entry draft
2015-06-04 Canucks Nathan Longpre signed with Lorenskog IK (Get Ligaen-Norway)
2015-06-18 Canucks Joe Cannata re-signed to a 1-year contract
2015-06-22 Canucks Alex Friesen re-signed to a 1-year contract
2015-06-22 Canucks Ronalds Kenins re-signed to a 1-year contract
2015-06-23 Canucks Joacim Eriksson signed with Dinamo Riga (KHL)
2015-06-26 Canucks Brock Boeser first round pick (#23 overall)
2015-06-27 Canucks 2015 seventh round pick (#210-Tate Olson) Partrick McNally / Patrick McNally trade with Sharks
2015-06-27 Canucks Adam Gaudette fifth round pick (#149 overall)
2015-06-27 Canucks Carl Neill fifth round pick (#144 overall)
2015-06-27 Canucks Dmitry Zhukenov fourth round pick (#114 overall)
2015-06-27 Canucks Lukas Jasek sixth round pick (#174 overall)
2015-06-27 Canucks Tate Olson seventh round pick (#210 overall)
2015-06-27 Canucks 2015 third round pick (#66-Guillaume Brisebois), 2016 seventh round pick (?-?) Eddie Lack trade with Hurricanes
2015-06-27 Canucks Guillaume Brisebois third round pick (#66 overall)
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