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dim jim needs to start kicking tires at other college UFA goalies to at least create a prospect pool...at this rate we'll need Chris Levesque to get out of the kitchen and back into his goalie equipment sometime next year
if Demko isn't signed by the week before the draft, they should at least get a feel for what he could fetch for in the market and do some leg work on possible trades
but then again, this management is great at fucking losing assets for nothing
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__________________ "There's a lot of dead people who had the right of way." "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." "I have a lot of beliefs, and I live by none of them. They're just my beliefs, they make me feel good about who I am. But if they get in the way of a thing I want, like I wanna jack off or something, I just do that."
dim jim needs to start kicking tires at other college UFA goalies to at least create a prospect pool...at this rate we'll need Chris Levesque to get out of the kitchen and back into his goalie equipment sometime next year
if Demko isn't signed by the week before the draft, they should at least get a feel for what he could fetch for in the market and do some leg work on possible trades
but then again, this management is great at fucking losing assets for nothing
We're basically left with three scenarios:
1) Demko decides to turn pro, we sign him.
2) Demko decides to re-commit to the NCAA, we trade him.
3) Demko decides to re-commit to the NCAA, we keep him.
Now, 2 seems preferable to 3 at face value, but I would imagine that his trade value will severely diminish once he makes the decision to return to school as potential trade partners will be in the same predicament we would be.
If Demko decides to return to school, would you be okay with receiving say a 5th round pick in exchange for his rights?
yeah...i can live with a 5th
it's better than having him commit to school and get fucked like Nashville got when all is said and done
__________________ "There's a lot of dead people who had the right of way." "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." "I have a lot of beliefs, and I live by none of them. They're just my beliefs, they make me feel good about who I am. But if they get in the way of a thing I want, like I wanna jack off or something, I just do that."
I would rather gamble on him signing with us then give him away for a 5th rounder. UNLESS he specifically tells management he does not want to sign in vancouver.
After 35 years in professional hockey, the last six seasons with the Vancouver Canucks, Melanson still knows where he needs to be next. And it is not here. It’s in Shediac, N.B., the lobster fishing town where he grew up, to spend time with his 84-year-old mother, Albertine. And in Montreal, where he’ll figure out with his fiancée, Lyne, what kind of life they’ll live and where.
At age 55, among the best in his highly-specialized profession, Melanson will be leaving the Canucks and could be leaving professional hockey, too.
I would rather gamble on him signing with us then give him away for a 5th rounder. UNLESS he specifically tells management he does not want to sign in vancouver.
But what if he says he want to explore his options at FA? Vancouver just isn't gonna win a competition where there will be multiple teams vying for his services.
That 5th would still be better than nothing.
Sucks that Rollie is leaving but this one was a long time coming. Looks like Clouts will be coming in FT and maybe Alex Auld in some supporting role.
__________________ "There's a lot of dead people who had the right of way." "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." "I have a lot of beliefs, and I live by none of them. They're just my beliefs, they make me feel good about who I am. But if they get in the way of a thing I want, like I wanna jack off or something, I just do that."
But what if he says he want to explore his options at FA? Vancouver just isn't gonna win a competition where there will be multiple teams vying for his services.
That 5th would still be better than nothing.
Sucks that Rollie is leaving but this one was a long time coming. Looks like Clouts will be coming in FT and maybe Alex Auld in some supporting role.
Clouts has been a part time goalie coach with the Comets the last couple of years... They better not bring him to the Canucks for more then a supporting role
Mind you, it's from the provies but there was a collection of tweets I can't find anymore that put Cloutier and Auld in the conversation.
Medicine Hat and Dallas-related staff also in the running lol.
Well, one of the worst kept Canucks secrets is now out.
Funny this, because it wasn’t that long ago that Linden said Willie and his staff were coming back.
Melanson’s contract is up at the end of the year, and for a variety of reasons, it’s expected he’ll be gone. Though, he will sit down with management and talk about a potential extension with the team but when the season is over.
Nothing is officially a done deal.
These things are always complex.
There’s just never a lot of openings so can Melanson can find another fit at what the Canucks pay? Sometimes for a coach like him, people make room.
But most have believed for some time, he’ll move East.
Part of it is personal, something head coach Willie Desjardins referenced when asked about it by Canucks.com reporter after the game.
Interesting that.
There was a long delay before Willie was made available tonight before what I would call an uncharacteristic question.
Wouldn’t surprise me if the Canucks set something up to get ahead of a sensitive, potentially negative issue, after the report made it on HNIC.
The way I’ve heard it from several people, Alex Auld is a leading candidate to replace him, and it’s a job I think Auld would want, and one I’m sure he’d be good at.
There are players who would like this to happen.
Other candidates, under the premise Willie will be back, include Mike Valley, who is with Dallas and was essentially demoted into a development role. He has a close relationship with Willie.
And then there’s Eli Wilson, who worked with Willie in Medicine Hat, works privately with big names and should be back in the NHL.
Woodley also put this out:
That seems a long shot to me with Ranford’s contract status.
Melanson, obviously, would be a significant loss. He’s made every goalie that’s come through here better. Arguably, no coach has had more success developing goalies.
But he’s not irreplaceable.
Cloutier doesn’t get nearly enough credit for the work he’s put in with Markstrom. He has had more influence of the two on Markstrom’s development.
In fact, I’m unconvinced Markstrom and Melanson is a great fit. Now, Lack was a different story and probably would love Rollie to be in Carolina.
As far as Demko goes, Rollie wasn’t there at his first development camp.
Demko’s progression was always going to be mostly on Cloutier.
Cloutier would be at the top of the list, but, as Woodley said, it’s believed he’s happy where he is, apparently happy and making more as a development coach than some in the NHL.
Bill Ranford would be great...too bad he can't get out of his contract with LA
__________________ "There's a lot of dead people who had the right of way." "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." "I have a lot of beliefs, and I live by none of them. They're just my beliefs, they make me feel good about who I am. But if they get in the way of a thing I want, like I wanna jack off or something, I just do that."
I don't know how cloutier is as a goalie coach. Maybe teach them how to fight? But goaltending?
he was still an nhl goalie and even tho he drove us crazy he still knows the game and the market better then most people out there. It's better having someone with real nhl experience then someone that doesn't
he was still an nhl goalie and even tho he drove us crazy he still knows the game and the market better then most people out there. It's better having someone with real nhl experience then someone that doesn't
Francois Allaire never played professional hockey. He started as a goaltending coach at age 19 and, arguably, is the most influential goaltending coach ever, inventing the butterfly goaltending style.
His brother, Benoit Allaire, has been the goaltending coach for the New York Rangers for the past 12 years. Another guy who never played pro hockey.
Cloutier might've had epic level meltdowns as a goalie, but Markstrom and Lack have nothing but great things to say about him as a goalie coach.
Probably showed em what he does to Swedish goalies that piss him off
__________________ "There's a lot of dead people who had the right of way." "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." "I have a lot of beliefs, and I live by none of them. They're just my beliefs, they make me feel good about who I am. But if they get in the way of a thing I want, like I wanna jack off or something, I just do that."
There were a few moments with Benning in that interview.
Paraphrasing - 'We went through 11 defensemen this season ... Out east, we would worry about who our 7th and 8th dmen were. Here, we need to worry about our 10th, 11th, and 12th dman.'
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No shit ...
It's like he came in and said, "Everything the previous regime did was wrong, I know better." ... And is just now coming to the realization that maybe they did what they did for a reason ... Like sleep doctors, having a roster with good defensive depth, putting waiver-exempt players in the AHL (i.e. Tanev) for injury call-ups down the road even though they were better than some of the players on the NHL roster, etc.
Then he dances around Drance's questions regarding asset management ... Ugh ...
Plus Benning contradicted himself on multiple occassions.
Willie did okay in that interview. He's a good talker.
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moments with Benning in that interview.
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