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Old 08-08-2015, 01:27 AM   #76
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Seriously. Who the fuck cares about your car. Rider is a friend of mine he is a nice person and he is a mature rider . It's a freak accident that bike burst in flames and even rarer that the rider catches on fire. From the looks of the impact he couldn't have been going fast. Forks not bent to shit and back of your car isn't even dented. I hope he pulls thru.
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Seriously. Who the fuck cares about your car. Rider is a friend of mine he is a nice person and he is a mature rider . It's a freak accident that bike burst in flames and even rarer that the rider catches on fire. From the looks of the impact he couldn't have been going fast. Forks not bent to shit and back of your car isn't even dented. I hope he pulls thru.
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so about the rider,this is a known defect with the bike???

that's so fucked up to happen,i really wonder if any lawsuits have being going on about it...Your Bike exploding on you??
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Heard about friends saying RSer making stupid speculations. So I came here and see more than half the people seems to worried more about a GTI than a human life.that really gets into me. I'm a car guy too and also a rider. I know it sucks losing your rides but it's safe to say that all our friends would rather lose our rides just to see our buddy pulls thru. This incident really keeping a lot of us sleepless
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Heard about friends saying RSer making stupid speculations. So I came here and see more than half the people seems to worried more about a GTI than a human life.that really gets into me. I'm a car guy too and also a rider. I know it sucks losing your rides but it's safe to say that all our friends would rather lose our rides just to see our buddy pulls thru. This incident really keeping a lot of us sleepless
In pretty much every single post on the first few pages of this thread, people are asking about the rider.
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In pretty much every single post on the first few pages of this thread, people are asking about the rider.
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Heard about friends saying RSer making stupid speculations. So I came here and see more than half the people seems to worried more about a GTI than a human life.that really gets into me. I'm a car guy too and also a rider. I know it sucks losing your rides but it's safe to say that all our friends would rather lose our rides just to see our buddy pulls thru. This incident really keeping a lot of us sleepless
I've read this entire thread and I don't see a single post like you claim. Everyone has been genuinely concerned about your friend's well being and the only negative sounding posts have been yours.
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Heard from a friend that the fellow rider is in ICU with 3rd degree burns.
From what I have heard, he is a well respected mature rider and the accident was an accident and he wasn't carrying a gas can in his lap.
There is even a chance he is a fellow RS member.
really?! wow wtf, i must have seen/heard wrong but i thought they showed the rider walking around with his shirt off, seemingly okay just shooken, i thought he was largely okay...wow, i hope he pulls through
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Hope the rider is ok. I have to speculate that his bike slid out well before the GTI and caught fire for some reason, with parts of the burning bike landing underneath the GTI. This could explain why the rider survived the crash as riders tend to survive slide outs and not crashing into stationary objects. It definitely seems like fuel was involved and fuel tanks don't tend to rupture, but his bike did split in two. Edit: saw a photo of the burnt bike intact.

Wishing the rider the fullest recovery possible. It's unfortunate he got burned in the process. I hate hearing of a fellow rider down. As for the GTI, they will give you asking value for a similar GTI, regardless of what you paid for it. ICBC has given me $2200 for a car I only paid $900 for.

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So what exactly happened though? He was riding and suddenly the bike started burning? Or did he hit the back of the car? Guess he'll just have to be questioned after his recovery.
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Seriously. Who the fuck cares about your car.
I'm guessing Ed does... just maybe....

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as a fellow vw owner i am genuinely sad for you and your car. 19k on a 2011? my buddy works at clarkdale so i see some random gems and such but that's pretty nuts.

heavy burns is a terrible thing to endure. hopefully that dude gets better.
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I'm guessing Ed does... just maybe....

Exactly, I mean what happened to the rider is terrible, it really is, but Ed's car did burn to the ground through no fault of his own. Just because what happened to the rider is worse doesn't mean that what happened to the GTI no longer matters.
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Sucks that the OP lost his car and is losing $$$ because of the incident as well. But cars can be replaced, and money can be made again. Human lives, however, are much more fragile, and burns are just about the worst kind of injuries a person can suffer from.

I don't personally know the rider, but I certainly know of him. I hope he makes a speedy recovery, and more important than that, I hope it'll be as minimally painful as possible.
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So what exactly happened though? He was riding and suddenly the bike started burning? Or did he hit the back of the car? Guess he'll just have to be questioned after his recovery.
He probably slid out before the GTI. There is no collision damage on the GTI.

Sliding out is not rare, most motorcyclists will have slid out at least once. A fire of that intensity however is not.
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Rider is a family man with a young child, a friend and fellow rider. Best wishes and speedy recovery. He's a car guy as well. I heard he's in pretty serious condition with 70% burns to body. Ed, sorry about your car. You will find a good replacement in time. Terrible freak of an accident. What a shame.
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Shxt... 70% burns to body... I did some googling just now, and the only credible stats I can find is ~50% survival rate for those with 80% burns.
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He probably slid out before the GTI. There is no collision damage on the GTI.

Sliding out is not rare, most motorcyclists will have slid out at least once. A fire of that intensity however is not.
That makes the most sense actually. For a good chunk of time, I was trying to figure out how he could have crashed into the back of the GTi and have the bike land where it was.
Bike catching on fire and the rider laid the bike down in an effort to get off the burning bike makes perfect sense.

3rd degree burns to 70% of his body is very serious.
Hope the fellow rider pulls through.

I wonder if he was wearing leathers that day or just regular street clothing.
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Seriously. Who the fuck cares about your car. Rider is a friend of mine he is a nice person and he is a mature rider . It's a freak accident that bike burst in flames and even rarer that the rider catches on fire. From the looks of the impact he couldn't have been going fast. Forks not bent to shit and back of your car isn't even dented. I hope he pulls thru.
Hey man, no one said we don't care about the rider but I know how these things get and I've been getting my info on the down low. I know his name, which hospital he's at and how he's doing.

As far as I know, the media doesn't have this yet and the last thing the family needs is people shoving mics in their face. I'm not family. I'm not law enforcement or a doctor. I'm just butting out and minding my own business until the dude is out of danger.

But c'mon...I thought a car community would get it. Yes, it isn't lost on me that my day could've been a lot worse but dude, my day yesterday sucked balls too. Just because it wasn't a 10 on the suck scale doesn't mean you would've want see something you love burn to the ground and then have to call a zillion robots to press one for English.

Also, a co-worker of mine sent me some dashcam footage. They were parked a couple cars ahead of the Halloween Pumpkin Scion special and although you can't see what happens that causes the impact, you do see a lot.

I will be taking it to the police on Monday. I will not be uploading this anywhere as I don't think the Internet needs to watch this but it does shed a little light on what happened. It's seriously scary to watch.

1. You hear VROOM...VROOM...sounds like a downshift. I don't know bikes too well but I hear VROOM VROOM just before the crash.

2. HARD impact on the back of my car. Bike bounces off my car, skids on the road to it's position in the middle of the road.

3. Fuel sprays everywhere. There isn't a fire before impact but there is visible liquid spray on impact.

4. A second after impact, liquid lights on fire. Especially near the bike, which is a massive fireball.

5. Rider was definitely on the bike on impact and was still on the bike when it slid to the middle of the road. Rider gets off his bike, on fire, runs into the bushes. Emerges from the bushes a few seconds later, still on fire, tosses helmet, starts stripping and jumps back into the bushes. Still on fire.

By now, other people are arriving and helping him out. I'm sure the family doesn't need this video out there. Only me and my friend have the video and I'll be calling the officer that gave me his card.
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He probably slid out before the GTI. There is no collision damage on the GTI.

Sliding out is not rare, most motorcyclists will have slid out at least once. A fire of that intensity however is not.
There was actually a big impact on my rear driver side bumper but it was the first spot to burn so it isn't immediately evident.

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Related question: is stop, drop and roll effective in a situation where you're covered in burning fuel?

Or is that just something children of the 80s like me were told...like hiding under your desk during an earthquake or nuclear explosion...
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Seriously. Who the fuck cares about your car. Rider is a friend of mine he is a nice person and he is a mature rider . It's a freak accident that bike burst in flames and even rarer that the rider catches on fire. From the looks of the impact he couldn't have been going fast. Forks not bent to shit and back of your car isn't even dented. I hope he pulls thru.
Seriously dude? I'm sorry about your friend, but atleast read through the thread before you blindly make retarded assumptions.

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Wait the rider was seriously burnt? Assuming his bike landed like that and wasn't moved you have to wonder how he wasn't thrown clear of the flames... Unless he was on fire when he hit your car, which would explain how both caught on fire... I don't even...

RS Cares bro. So quit villainizing the community.
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Related question: is stop, drop and roll effective in a situation where you're covered in burning fuel?

Or is that just something children of the 80s like me were told...like hiding under your desk during an earthquake or nuclear explosion...
They still teach Stop Drop and Roll today because it works. Fuel will not burn without oxygen.
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Just think, this guy had plans for the weekend, then shit happened. It goes to show, you never know what fate has in store for you.

I just hope he pulls through and becomes a stronger person after all this.
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