Yet Another English v. Mandarin Language War in Richmond... TL;DR Version: Local townhouse board does all their meetings in Mandarin, with no verbal English translations. Read highlighted sections for more info. Quote:
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And now you know why china has communism :troll: |
Richmond be crazy. In before all the signs are changed to Mandarin-only :troll: |
The national post article is written with a more neutral tone towards the matter. This Richmond News article presents the matter in a more inflammatory way, and provides more supporting reason for doing so: Chinese-only strata council prompts human rights complaint Quote:
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First off, the national post article is wrong in that this guy is not an original owner of the condo unit because I was the previous owner of that condo and this guy bought my unit just earlier this year but anyway, input I wanted to make was that the previous board WAS in fact very corrupt and I would not be surprised at all to learn they were stealing from the contingency fund personally I thought the newly formed council was doing a great job, I never attended a meeting and I don't speak Mandarin but they let go of the previous property manager, who wanted us to keep the place in absolute perfect condition (we suspect to keep our property values up and their own portfolio value up) despite maintenance not necessarily being required |
There's 2 sides to every story... I'm sure there's something not right there, but for all we know this dude making the claims is a total nut job himself... Wait until all the facts come out before jumping to conclusions....... *Waiting for someone to post jump to conclusions mat pic from Office Space* |
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BS There is no way strata meeting was in Mandarin. because Chinese owners do not attend strata meeting. |
saw it on the news today, the strata president refused to comment to the news non mandarin speaking owners were allowed to attend the meeting, but other than a greeting, in english, upon entry, the meetings were held in mandarin this is according to two separate owners unbelievable... at least one owner has brought the matter to the human rights tribunal, no doubt he'll win, but will it change anything... |
should sell Richmond to China and bomb all the bridges for god's sake |
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$200 strata fee for a townhouse built in 2004 is very low... I guess people would let the place run with minimum preventive maintenance |
A lot of people in Vancouver, Richmond, etc... that have a high amount of Chinese/HK people in their area would be doing themselves a favor if they learned more about the culture, language etc... that is coming into their neighborhoods. I am not saying that they are right for speaking Mandarin in these meetings, this is flat out wrong unless it is a private group that you willingly join. Many people who are first generation or even early second generation Canadian could learn a lot from the way things are done in Asia and apply it to actually benefit from the large Asian population currently in the Lower Mainland which will surely continue to grow. |
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Is not just the old Chinese that don't bother to learn English even university or international students as well. So many times I ran into Chinese who look like no more than 30 and doesn't speak English. If you are not retired make an effort to at least learn the basic of English. I don't bother speaking Chinese if they ask me anything instead I answer in English. Don't like to learn English, either learn that not everyone around you will speak Chinese or go back to where you come from. |
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I'll make it plain and simple I fucking hate people who don't bother to learn a lick of English in Canada. No reason you give is defensible unless you're fucking mute, retarded, deaf or all of those This isn't your fucking country. Get over yourself and learn some fucking English you cunt. It's not that hard. You're getting sheltered from whatever shit place you came from so the least you can fucking do is learn the language and use it. |
Canada opened it doors to you - have some fucking respect. |
As much as I agree with all you about how people who come to Canada should learn some fucking english, our government is way too pussy to enforce these laws or whatever. We are so "tolerant" of other people's cultures, traditions or whatever that Canada has stopped growing, improving, and lost their identity altogether |
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Now, you say this isn't their "country", but is this country yours? Wasn't the land we are all occupying now belonged to the Indigenous people? Did we really respect those people's culture, language, and property rights and not treat those people with any discrimination? Here is a quote from Wikipedia on Duncan Campbell Scott who was the guy running the Department of Indian Affairs for almost 20 years: "In 1920, under Scott's direction, and with the concurrence of the major religions involved in native education, an amendment to the Indian Act made it mandatory for all native children between the ages of seven and fifteen to attend school. Attendance at a residential school was made compulsory. Although a reading of Bill 14 states that no particular kind of school was stipulated. Scott was in favour of residential schooling for aboriginal children, as he believed removing them from the influences of home and reserve would hasten the cultural and economic transformation of the whole aboriginal population. In cases where a residential school was the only kind available, residential enrollment did become mandatory, and aboriginal children were compelled to leave their homes, their families and their culture, with or without their parents' consent. However, in 1901, 226 of the 290 Indian schools across Canada were day schools, and by 1961, the 377 day schools far outnumbered the 56 residential institutions." I guess it is okay for a white man treat others with disdain but not the other around for the Chinese now. By the way, I am not in agreement with all the improper decorum displayed by the Chinese in case you are wondering. However, the saying "what goes around, comes around" comes to my mind. |
^^^ I hope you realize that he's Chinese and most of the people that agree with his sentiment either weren't born here or are children of immigrants. Immigrants that for the most part, didn't take for granted that they were allowed into this country and given the opportunity for a better future for themselves and their children. In return and out of appreciation for that opportunity, the least they could do is live harmoniously with the people who were already here, by being able to communicate with them in the acceptable language. I agree that it isn't their country not because we don't accept them...... because they don't accept us. |
Without knowing the full story (or at least a fuller story), the only definitive thing I can say is -- the stupid strata council literally brought this trouble onto themselves. The English speaking dude clearly (or at least, likely) had a bone to pick when he went to sit in on the strata council meeting. Had the council members been smarter, they would have realized this and offered to translate the conversations to him in English. This would have shut him up and not give him an excuse to file that complaint to the Human Rights Tribunal. As the matter currently stands, I don't really see any reason why the English speaking dude would not win the complaint. When the results come back, the tribunal could order the strata council to do anything between simply providing a translator for anyone wishing to listen in on the Mandarin council meeting, to requiring the council meeting to be conducted in English. The strata council is the one that has everything to lose and nothing to gain by being so stupid arrogant. |
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