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Old 02-09-2016, 01:25 PM   #26
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pretty low at the moment but the fact that theres even a chance is scary
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i still cant tell for sure if trump is actually seriously running or still just trolling everyone. i feel like alot of what hes saying is just to see how far he can go before he either says it was all trolling, or says its time to get serious.

but for everyone whos saying its scary or ridiculous that he even has a chance, if you strip away the trolling comments, how is he really that much worse than the rest of them? Clinton is so bought and paid for its crazy, along with most of the Republican career shills. And Socialist Sanders is like the Canadian NDP promising to spend a brazillian dollars in an economy that cant afford it. Of course the youth movement favors Bernie, all the college kids love the word FREE because they haven't figured out that nothing in life is ever free.

Ya a lot of what he says is pretty out there, but is that any different than any other candidate that's ever run in any election? Obama said he was the combo breaker and campaigned on !!!change!!! and then spent 8 years not doing much different than any other government would have. Thats how the system works.

Whether you like Trump or not, most of what he says comes from a solid belief that conservatism is the best way to rebuild a country. Ship out illegal immigrants that are leaching off social services, bring manufacturing back to America like the post war era boom to get people working, and make the government spend less money.


I know a lot of the crowd on RS is super liberal partly due to the culture in Vancouver, but a vast majority of the USA and Canada have strong conservative values. And that is why elections generally always come down to liberal (liberal, ndp, democrat) vs conservative (conservative, republican) values, and are usually pretty close regardless of which party wins.
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It's hard to keep track of Trumps policies. At one point he was a wife cheating pro abortion liberal now he's a man of the cloth family man.
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i still cant tell for sure if trump is actually seriously running or still just trolling everyone. i feel like alot of what hes saying is just to see how far he can go before he either says it was all trolling, or says its time to get serious.

but for everyone whos saying its scary or ridiculous that he even has a chance, if you strip away the trolling comments, how is he really that much worse than the rest of them? Clinton is so bought and paid for its crazy, along with most of the Republican career shills. And Socialist Sanders is like the Canadian NDP promising to spend a brazillian dollars in an economy that cant afford it. Of course the youth movement favors Bernie, all the college kids love the word FREE because they haven't figured out that nothing in life is ever free.

Ya a lot of what he says is pretty out there, but is that any different than any other candidate that's ever run in any election? Obama said he was the combo breaker and campaigned on !!!change!!! and then spent 8 years not doing much different than any other government would have. Thats how the system works.

Whether you like Trump or not, most of what he says comes from a solid belief that conservatism is the best way to rebuild a country. Ship out illegal immigrants that are leaching off social services, bring manufacturing back to America like the post war era boom to get people working, and make the government spend less money.


I know a lot of the crowd on RS is super liberal partly due to the culture in Vancouver, but a vast majority of the USA and Canada have strong conservative values. And that is why elections generally always come down to liberal (liberal, ndp, democrat) vs conservative (conservative, republican) values, and are usually pretty close regardless of which party wins.
I think a lot of Obama's issues has stemmed from the Congress as well, at least during his current term. I know he had a house majority on his first term, but he bore the brunt of the global financial crisis during that time. Also Obamacare, while a worthy goal, made him a ton of enemies within the government, particularly amongst Republicans who would occasionally work with the Democrats during voting sessions.

I personally have no problem with Conservatism, at least on a financial level. However, while Trump has the basic ideas down, the way he's pandering to the lowest common denominator is what bothers me the most. True, he's not a career politician, but he is a career businessman. Running a country is not like running a business. And considering Trump's history with his business ventures, I'm not sure I'd even want a businessman like him to run it. It's true that once in a while you need a shake up to the status quo and that having a businessman as President might actually be a good idea. I just don't think Trump is that someone. True, he's brash, speaks his mind and generally doesn't give two fucks about what others say.

...actually, he's pretty much a symbol of Americanism today, now that I think about it. Maybe he would be perfect.
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I think a lot of Obama's issues has stemmed from the Congress as well, at least during his current term. I know he had a house majority on his first term, but he bore the brunt of the global financial crisis during that time. Also Obamacare, while a worthy goal, made him a ton of enemies within the government, particularly amongst Republicans who would occasionally work with the Democrats during voting sessions.

I personally have no problem with Conservatism, at least on a financial level. However, while Trump has the basic ideas down, the way he's pandering to the lowest common denominator is what bothers me the most. True, he's not a career politician, but he is a career businessman. Running a country is not like running a business. And considering Trump's history with his business ventures, I'm not sure I'd even want a businessman like him to run it. It's true that once in a while you need a shake up to the status quo and that having a businessman as President might actually be a good idea. I just don't think Trump is that someone. True, he's brash, speaks his mind and generally doesn't give two fucks about what others say.

...actually, he's pretty much a symbol of Americanism today, now that I think about it. Maybe he would be perfect.
i dunno, the whole point of politics is to appeal to the lowest common denominator because they will form your voting core

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So Trump won New Hampshire with 1/3 of the vote. With the next 4 in the 10 to 15% range.

JEB! Bush including his super pac are estimated to have spend 4.5 Mill in New Hampshire. With around 7000 votes that's over $640 per person. Crazy.
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pretty high,

he's much better than rubio, clinton and sanders thats for sure.
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I really believe Trump is trolling everyone and is probably laughing his ass off because he continues to gain support from idiots who actual think he means the shit coming out of his mouth. The guy is a showman and salesman and he's playing the system perfectly so he can get the nomination. He's also using the the media to his advantage hence the reason he's basically spent nothing to get where he is.

And if you actually hear him speak he has nothing to say about actual polices, all he says is "we'll make America great again" followed by "we'll build the biggest wall!" or "we'll have the biggest military in the world and everyone will be scared of us!". It's ridiculous how stupid some Americans are.
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JEB! Bush including his super pac are estimated to have spend 4.5 Mill in New Hampshire. With around 7000 votes that's over $640 per person. Crazy.
Jeb spent $36.1 M according to The BBC US election 2016: Trump and Sanders win New Hampshire - BBC News

I remember they were saying he spent well over $2000 a vote in Iowa, so 4.5M seemed low
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Lol you fucking idiot.
that's what the regressive left calls anybody who doesn't agree with their groupthink

any evidence that any of the candidates listed above are better than trump? fucking lol

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No, that's just what I call you because everything you post makes you look like an idiot. It's fucking painful.
There are different ideologies and there is quantifiable stupidity. They aren't the same.
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There are different ideologies and there is quantifiable stupidity. They aren't the same.


lol i must've gotten under your skin for you go and analyze everything i post. go ahead...find a post and indicate where the idiocy is, i'll wait hahaha
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The rise of Donald Trump is a terrifying moment in American politics
Updated by Ezra Klein on February 10, 2016, 12:22 a.m. ET

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On Monday, Donald Trump held a rally in Manchester, New Hampshire, where he merrily repeated a woman in the crowd who called Ted Cruz a pussy. Twenty-four hours later, Donald Trump won the New Hampshire primary in a landslide.

I'm not here to clutch my pearls over Trump's vulgarity; what was telling, rather, was the immaturity of the moment, the glee Trump took in his "she said it, I didn't" game. The media, which has grown used to covering Trump as a sideshow, delighted in the moment along with him — it was funny, and it meant clicks, takes, traffic. But it was more than that. It was the frontrunner for the Republican nomination for president showing off the demagogue's instinct for amplifying the angriest voice in the mob.

It is undeniably enjoyable to watch Trump. He's red-faced, discursive, funny, angry, strange, unpredictable, and real. He speaks without filter and tweets with reckless abandon. The Donald Trump phenomenon is a riotous union of candidate ego and voter id. America's most skilled political entertainer is putting on the greatest show we've ever seen.

It's so fun to watch that it's easy to lose sight of how terrifying it really is.

Trump is the most dangerous major candidate for president in memory. He pairs terrible ideas with an alarming temperament; he's a racist, a sexist, and a demagogue, but he's also a narcissist, a bully, and a dilettante. He lies so constantly and so fluently that it's hard to know if he even realizes he's lying. He delights in schoolyard taunts and luxuriates in backlash.


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Trump is in serious contention to win the Republican presidential nomination. His triumph in a general election is unlikely, but it is far from impossible. He's not a joke and he's not a clown. He's a man who could soon be making decisions of war and peace, who would decide which regulations are enforced and which are lifted, who would be responsible for nominating Supreme Court justices and representing America in the community of nations. This is not political entertainment. This is politics.

Trump's path to power has been unnerving. His business is licensing out his own name as a symbol of opulence. He has endured bankruptcies and scandal by bragging his way out of them. He rose to prominence in the Republican Party as a leader of the birther movement. He climbed to the top of the polls in this election by calling Mexicans rapists and killers. He defended a poor debate performance by accusing Megyn Kelly of being on her period. He responded to rival Ted Cruz's surge by calling for a travel ban on Muslims. When two of his supporters attacked a homeless man and said they did it because "Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported," he brushed off complaints that he's inspiring violence by saying his supporters are "very passionate."

Behind Trump's success is an unerring instinct for harnessing anger, resentment, and fear. His view of the economy is entirely zero-sum — for Americans to win, others must lose. "We're going to make America great again," he said in his New Hampshire victory speech, "but we're going to do it the old-fashioned way. We're going to beat China, Japan, beat Mexico at trade. We're going to beat all of these countries that are taking so much of our money away from us on a daily basis. It's not going to happen anymore."

Trump answers America's rage with more rage. As the journalist Molly Ball observed, "All the other candidates say 'Americans are angry, and I understand.' Trump says, 'I’M angry.'" Trump doesn't offer solutions so much as he offers villains. His message isn't so much that he'll help you as he'll hurt them.


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Trump's other gift — the one that gets less attention but is perhaps more important — is his complete lack of shame. It's easy to underestimate how important shame is in American politics. But shame is our most powerful restraint on politicians who would find success through demagoguery. Most people feel shame when they're exposed as liars, when they're seen as uninformed, when their behavior is thought cruel, when respected figures in their party condemn their actions, when experts dismiss their proposals, when they are mocked and booed and protested.

Trump doesn't. He has the reality television star's ability to operate entirely without shame, and that permits him to operate entirely without restraint. It is the single scariest facet of his personality. It is the one that allows him to go where others won't, to say what others can't, to do what others wouldn't.

Trump lives by the reality television trope that he's not here to make friends. But the reason reality television villains always say they're not there to make friends is because it sets them apart, makes them unpredictable and fun to watch. "I'm not here to make friends" is another way of saying, "I'm not bound by the social conventions of normal people." The rest of us are here to make friends, and it makes us boring, gentle, kind.

This, more than his ideology, is why Trump genuinely scares me. There are places where I think his instincts are an improvement on the Republican field. He seems more dovish than neoconservatives like Marco Rubio, and less dismissive of the social safety net than libertarians like Rand Paul. But those candidates are checked by institutions and incentives that hold no sway over Trump; his temperament is so immature, his narcissism so clear, his political base so unique, his reactions so strange, that I honestly have no idea what he would do — or what he wouldn't do.

When MSNBC's Joe Scarborough asked Trump about his affection for Vladimir Putin, who "kills journalists, political opponents and invades countries," Trump replied, "He's running his country, and at least he's a leader, unlike what we have in this country." Later, he clarified that he doesn't actually condone killing journalists, but, he warned the crowd, "I do hate them."

It's a lie that if you put a frog into a pot of water and slowly turn up the heat the frog will simply boil, but it's a fact that if you put the American political system in a room with Trump for long enough we slowly lose track of how noxious he is, or we at least run out of ways to keep repeating it.

But tonight is a night to repeat it. There is something scary in Donald Trump. We should fear his rise.
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lol poor Bush, Trump was completely toying him.
It was good that he dropped out before he embarrassed himself further.

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If it's Trump vs Hilary, Trump will be president, mark my words. Hilary is basically a right wing conservative anyway. She's a war mongering liar who is backed by the banks. She will split the votes and the goofballs will lean towards Trump.

If the 'grassroots' support of Bernie continues, and he ends up as the Dem rep, it will continue to grow and he'd beat any Republican.
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If it's Trump vs Hilary, Trump will be president, mark my words. Hilary is basically a right wing conservative anyway. She's a war mongering liar who is backed by the banks. She will split the votes and the goofballs will lean towards Trump.

If the 'grassroots' support of Bernie continues, and he ends up as the Dem rep, it will continue to grow and he'd beat any Republican.
Trump will never be president. If he gets nominated the republican party will split and there will be a good chance of a 3rd party candidate.

Trump is having a really bad week right now. First it was hom not wanting to release his tax returns. Then you had the CNN interview and now you have that off the record interview with the New York times. People want him to release it but he won't. Rumor has it has him saying he would not deport immigrants and other stuff. They you have Trump quoting trump Mussolini on twitter.

Look at this CNN interview. The democrats will have a field day with this. It's way worse that Romney's 47 percent comment.

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The thing is, it doesn't matter how bad of a week, month or year he has. Anyone who is stupid enough to vote for someone that hasn't had a clear concise answer about a single issue facing their country, is too stupid to care about pesky things like facts or issues getting in the way of their reality show. This is the darkest period America has seen in my lifetime. I feel sorry for their educated and reasonable citizens getting lumped in with the dumb racist fucks that think this guy is going to make money rain from the sky on all the lowest part of the middle class with a grade 10 education and a general labour job.
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