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Old 10-10-2016, 08:54 AM   #601
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^ I was responding specifically to Manic!'s post even though I didn't quote it, he pretty specifically inferred that he doesn't think America has ever been great.
He's ignorant... Anyone who doesn't think America is an amazing great country has no idea what goes on in the world
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I drove across the US from sea to sea and man, it was more than amazing or awesome.

Anyway, Canadian expats do more than their share in contributing to that greatness. America is truly a land of opportunities, and it has served them well.

Unlike Canada, where..............nvm. Not going there.
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I think the point most people make about that slogan is... America IS great already. As great as it's ever been. So where does the "again" come from?

Going back much further in history than the 1960's or even 70's is when things weren't so great... And the further back you go, the less great it was. So what are they trying to bring back exactly?
People would argue that from 1950-1970 was when America was "great". This was the time when American consumerism peaked due to a thriving export market. Everyone wanted to be American or buy American during this time.

America is most certainly still the greatest county in the world by most measures.

I think Trump>Hilary for one reason, you can't make America more competitive in a global marketplace by increasing taxes, it doesn't work like that. Trump is right about negotiating strong trade deals, not right about tearing them up.

In virtually every other respect though, trump is most certainly not fit for the presidency.

But then Clinton is a lying piece of shit.

Imagine Canada's economy without the abundance of natural resources or massive housing construction/lending industries. We would be broke as fuck, in reality, Canada has a terribly risky and weak economy.

High taxes are not a solution to anything, at least not IMO.
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He's ignorant... Anyone who doesn't think America is an amazing great country has no idea what goes on in the world


Make America great again means America is not great you claim America is great. America has always had problems. No country is perfect but claiming America was great but is not great right now is complete B.S.

I am still waiting for an actual year or time period when America was great in donalds eyes.
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Make America Great again, LOL. I don't even know why you people ask what he means when he says that.

It's obvious he doesn't have a plan, that whole slogan is merely a dog whistle to his bigoted followers. America has always been great, it's the greatest country on the planet (blah blah yes arguably), and has been for quite some time now. The only time it lost its "greatness" is when a black man entered the White House and started running the plantation.
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Make America Great again, LOL. I don't even know why you people ask what he means when he says that.

It's obvious he doesn't have a plan, that whole slogan is merely a dog whistle to his bigoted followers. America has always been great, it's the greatest country on the planet (blah blah yes arguably), and has been for quite some time now. The only time it lost its "greatness" is when a black man entered the White House and started running the plantation.
Do you realize how insane your liberal bias is? You're absolutely rediculous.

A large portion of the Republican voting base is not voting republican because they don't want women to get abortions, because muslims are evil, or because Barack Obama is black. Many of them are simply pro-capitalism and view the standard democratic policy as being very socialist in nature.

So while you tend to generalize that republicans are all bigots, this is simply not the case.

Granted there is a certain class of republican who are quite special, these are the people who would suggest the civil war was not about racism and slavery but about rights and freedoms - they just leave out the part it was about the right to own slaves and the freedom to do what they want with them.

Try to be a little more objective, it won't hurt, I swear.
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Do you realize how insane your liberal bias is? You're absolutely rediculous.

A large portion of the Republican voting base is not voting republican because they don't want women to get abortions, because muslims are evil, or because Barack Obama is black. Many of them are simply pro-capitalism and view the standard democratic policy as being very socialist in nature.

So while you tend to generalize that republicans are all bigots, this is simply not the case.

Granted there is a certain class of republican who are quite special, these are the people who would suggest the civil war was not about racism and slavery but about rights and freedoms - they just leave out the part it was about the right to own slaves and the freedom to do what they want with them.

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Trump in the latest CNBC poll has 29% approval rating. The reason christian evangelical leaders are supporting trump is because of his stance on abortion and protecting Christians from prosecution from who knows what.

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and here is a Trump supporter on CNN. This is why people think all conservatives are crazy. I actually saw this live.


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A lot of liberals are financially conservative and hate government waste but are social liberal and that's why they can never vote conservative. To many nut jobs like the ones above.
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If Trump becomes POTUS on November 8th, I'm gonna send the Canadian immigration website info. to my four American cousins.

Canada needs high skilled workers like my cousins. We need more software engineers.
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Guys it's very simple.

The Donald obviously watched this scene from the TV:


And thought it was real life, and he based his entire campaign on it.
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Because most people dont want the job when they know what it takes to be one.
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Because most people dont want the job when they know what it takes to be one.

Job pays $400K a year.

For a chance to win the job, you would need (well, potentially raise) hundreds of millions of dollars.

You see what's wrong there ?
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Job pays $400K a year.

For a chance to win the job, you would need (well, potentially raise) hundreds of millions of dollars.

You see what's wrong there ?
yeah, that the 400k a year even matters.
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Yea because I would totally go through all the actual pain, suffering and sometimes getting my whole family and everyone I know dragged through the mud for 400k.

Did you see Obama's picture before and after? Hell, any POTUS picture before and after. I wonder if they get to sleep at least 2-3 hours everyday.

Watch the documentaries man, even dramas like The West Wing. So many out there. You will not want the fucking job unless you're the type that was born to save the world. Or a fucking idiot.
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The 400k/year is just their salary. It does not begin to capture the other 'benefits' of the job. Book sales through the roof, movie deals, not to mention bribes from pharm/oil etc industries.
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Dude each president takes plenty of vacation days and they lounge around at Martha's Vineyard or some other fancy pants white people place for a week every so often to recharge.

It's a tough job and it totally takes a toll...but they're not running these guys to the ground. They have their own time too.
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Yea because I would totally go through all the actual pain, suffering and sometimes getting my whole family and everyone I know dragged through the mud for 400k.

Did you see Obama's picture before and after? Hell, any POTUS picture before and after. I wonder if they get to sleep at least 2-3 hours everyday.

Watch the documentaries man, even dramas like The West Wing. So many out there. You will not want the fucking job unless you're the type that was born to save the world. Or a fucking idiot.
yeah I've seen them. They do age super fast, probably due to stress.




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being president no doubt ages you faster due to the stress, but dont forget most of these guys get elected in their late 40s or early 50s and serve 8 years. most males go thru a pretty significant aging in that age area.
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Exactly. That is what is so effed up and corrupt about it.

Definitely the bribes. These "6 figures $ for speeches" that Clinton (Bill or Hillary) charges. Hell, that Clinton Global Initiative is one giant money laundering corporation where a lot of the bribe money goes to.

You want to lobby something to the Hillary, just donate tons of money via the super pacts and CGI. Apparently, the legalization of Marijuana on the Federal level will not happen during her tenure according to her. Hooray for Big Pharma !! More addictive pain killers and anti-depressants for everyone.
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I'm gonna go into full conspiracy theory mode here for a moment, so forgive me if I sound like CiC or +theone+ but what do you think the odds would be that Trump would be assassinated by a branch of the government should he actually be elected? I'm sure many people in the government would see him a huge threat to national security and a destabilizing force to both the country in particular and world in general. While I don't buy into the whole "JFK was assassinated by the USA government" conspiracy, it can certainly lend credence that a Trump presidency could potentially end in a similar manner.

Anyway, that's my late night thought of the day.
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With the way things are heading right now, I see a near zero percent chance of Trump getting elected a POTUS. So for me at least, there is no point to consider the hypothetical question.
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I'm gonna go into full conspiracy theory mode here for a moment, so forgive me if I sound like CiC or +theone+ but what do you think the odds would be that Trump would be assassinated by a branch of the government should he actually be elected? I'm sure many people in the government would see him a huge threat to national security and a destabilizing force to both the country in particular and world in general. While I don't buy into the whole "JFK was assassinated by the USA government" conspiracy, it can certainly lend credence that a Trump presidency could potentially end in a similar manner.

Anyway, that's my late night thought of the day.
there's a huge difference between campaign promises and what a president will actually do when he's in office.

there's little evidence to suggest otherwise that trump wont just maintain the status quo and be obama 2.0 when he's elected
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I think the remote possibility of Trump becoming POTUS still exists. There are damning emails coming out from the wiki-leaks that aren't being covered by mainstream media outlets, but if you look they are there. I think given how close the election was for Clinton vs Sanders, there's a larger proportion of voters out there that no longer rely on sources like CNN or MSNBC.

I mean, Americans did after all elect George Bush... Twice. I remember back in high school that the media frenzy over what an idiot he is/was was pretty hyped up too, just like Trump's shortcomings. Nixon, and Reagan were also considered "joke candidates" during their run for president... Yet they also won against the more intelligent democratic candidates.

I think polls & media are helpful, but shouldn't be completely relied on.
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