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Old 05-09-2016, 06:06 PM   #26
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Fucktwats on their phone in traffic piss me off just as much as anyone else. I've been held up by them at red lights, I've been near missed by them.
This.

I can't even count the number of times I've been behind some idiot who continues texting or browsing Facebook on their phone after the light turns green, completely oblivious, really pisses me off. The worst is when you're making a right turn from a side street and the person in front of you clearly has their head down looking at their phone while everyone in front of them has already driven off

What difference does using your phone at a red light have compared to using your phone while the car is not stationary? Are you not driving your car when you're at a red light? Are you not distracted when you're using your phone at a red light? Like how fucking hard can it be to just not fucking use your phone while you're driving you bloody phone addicts? I for one am very happy with the decision to increase the fines. People calling this another "cash grab" clearly don't know what distracted driving can do, compared to say, driving 10-20km/h over the speed limit and getting a speeding ticket, which is arguably much more of a cash grab.

Also, if you need to pull over to make a phone call or text, for the love of god don't just literally park your car in the middle of the lane and put your hazards on a la Richmond style, I've seen this happen more than enough it's just as terrible, where's the common sense?
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If you're at a red light you're still in control of that vehicle, that means you need to be aware enough to move it or stop it from moving at all times.

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What if using phone on a cell phone holder, eye level , almost like changing radio stations or volume
When stopped at red light, you can change music, enter addy to your navi, face your passenger and talk. But as soon as you glance at your phone, you are Murder!! Impound you car!!
Actually you also do all of these while moving and you still wouldn't get tickets.
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According to section 214.2 of the Motor Vehicle Act

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does this apply if i'm eating a big-mac while i drive with one hand?
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This.

I can't even count the number of times I've been behind some idiot who continues texting or browsing Facebook on their phone after the light turns green, completely oblivious, really pisses me off. The worst is when you're making a right turn from a side street and the person in front of you clearly has their head down looking at their phone while everyone in front of them has already driven off

What difference does using your phone at a red light have compared to using your phone while the car is not stationary? Are you not driving your car when you're at a red light? Are you not distracted when you're using your phone at a red light? Like how fucking hard can it be to just not fucking use your phone while you're driving you bloody phone addicts? I for one am very happy with the decision to increase the fines. People calling this another "cash grab" clearly don't know what distracted driving can do, compared to say, driving 10-20km/h over the speed limit and getting a speeding ticket, which is arguably much more of a cash grab.

Also, if you need to pull over to make a phone call or text, for the love of god don't just literally park your car in the middle of the lane and put your hazards on a la Richmond style, I've seen this happen more than enough it's just as terrible, where's the common sense?

I agree with you.. but i'm going to be "that guy"...

how do you know someone is on their phone on fb/texting when you are behind them? do you have xray vision?
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does this apply if i'm eating a big-mac while i drive with one hand?
I think one big mac is acceptable, although a super sized coke in the other while you steer with your knee is pushing it.
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I agree with you.. but i'm going to be "that guy"...

how do you know someone is on their phone on fb/texting when you are behind them? do you have xray vision?
Sitting in my truck it's pretty obvious looking down at a dude in his car in front of me and his head constantly looks up and down every few seconds. It's either that or he's admiring his dick a little too much.
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I wonder how many Mainlanders WANT that second offense?
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I don't think this would matter anymore in 10yr time.

Autonomous car technology is just around the corner. Seriously, I'd buy a fucking Chrysler Pacifica if that's the car to be. And I'd rock the LoL in a traffic jam

After that, this law would go into the category of "laws that don't make any sense"
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I personally think most of these driving fines are nothing more than cash grab, including speeding tickets.
This is the stupidest, most self-absorbed, retarded phrase ever, and people should stop using it or get a well-deserved punch in the face.

A "cash grab" is unavoidable. These kinds of tickets are 100% avoidable: don't break the law, and they don't get your cash. Simple.
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does this apply if i'm eating a big-mac while i drive with one hand?
i'd like to know too...does eating fall under distracted driving with the same fines?
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This is the stupidest, most self-absorbed, retarded phrase ever, and people should stop using it or get a well-deserved punch in the face.

A "cash grab" is unavoidable. These kinds of tickets are 100% avoidable: don't break the law, and they don't get your cash. Simple.
if he was talking about speeding tickets, it's a cash grab because the limit is far too low for safety. We all know this.
I bet you speed every single day multiple times like we all do.

Texting on the other hand, it's just as dangerous as DUI.
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This.

I can't even count the number of times I've been behind some idiot who continues texting or browsing Facebook on their phone after the light turns green, completely oblivious, really pisses me off. The worst is when you're making a right turn from a side street and the person in front of you clearly has their head down looking at their phone while everyone in front of them has already driven off

What difference does using your phone at a red light have compared to using your phone while the car is not stationary? Are you not driving your car when you're at a red light? Are you not distracted when you're using your phone at a red light? Like how fucking hard can it be to just not fucking use your phone while you're driving you bloody phone addicts? I for one am very happy with the decision to increase the fines. People calling this another "cash grab" clearly don't know what distracted driving can do, compared to say, driving 10-20km/h over the speed limit and getting a speeding ticket, which is arguably much more of a cash grab.

Also, if you need to pull over to make a phone call or text, for the love of god don't just literally park your car in the middle of the lane and put your hazards on a la Richmond style, I've seen this happen more than enough it's just as terrible, where's the common sense?
It's annoying, absolutely.

These fines are being increased to make the roads safer, similar to how penalties for drinking and driving have increased. However, I'd wager the vast majority of tickets aren't going to hit the people who are endangering lives.
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Hate these catch-all laws that are even catch all. Buy a car with a system that has facebook app. Problem not solved.
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if he was talking about speeding tickets, it's a cash grab because the limit is far too low for safety. We all know this.
I bet you speed every single day multiple times like we all do.
Don't do the crime, don't pay the fine, keep all your cash. Pretty simple.

If it's YOUR CHOICE to break the law, then it's your choice to pay the price when caught.
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What are governments going to do when cars start driving themselves. They are going to lose so much in revenue and cops are going to have so much more free time.
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I wonder how many Mainlanders WANT that second offense?
This might end up making Richmond tolerable to drive in again.
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i hope the new law applies to past offenders also....So this person can get fucked so hard in the ass.

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I think I'm a little confused. So if I get a permanent holder that my phone sits in, I can touch it with my hand? Like I can accept a call, scroll through music, text etc much like I would on my nav screen?
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This is the stupidest, most self-absorbed, retarded phrase ever, and people should stop using it or get a well-deserved punch in the face.

A "cash grab" is unavoidable. These kinds of tickets are 100% avoidable: don't break the law, and they don't get your cash. Simple.
You've been punched enough times in the head that your logic is failing hard. Your statement does not even consider the stupidity or validity of certain laws and what you are saying to people is just obey the law and don't get fined.

What I'm saying is that it's a huge fucking inconvenience in some cases to obey some law that was brought in with clear intention of increasing revenues.

Are you gonna keep saying the same shit if they deem that the current speed limit is a major factor in causing accidents and further lower it? Next up, we will fine you if we see that you are driving with one hand.

Guys, if you love getting raped and feel there aren't enough fines that surround you, by all means. BC isn't the first province to bring in distracted driving fines. There are other provinces which have this in place for longer. Why not post a study that actually shows there have been meaningful reductions in accidents after implementing such law? Some of your replies are so fucking simplistic it bothers me. It's like this law will save you from having to ever deal with people looking at their phone at a stoplight.

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There's been way too many stories of people who weren't actually using any electronic devices getting nailed and having absolutely no recourse.
People lie...a lot...

Anyone who's gotten a ticket will try to justify the fact that they weren't on their phone when they know they were and they're just pissed that they got caught. I've been in a car with someone who got a speeding ticket...and yeah, he was speeding. A few days later I hear from a mutual friend how its bullshit that cops have nothing better to do than to give tickets to people doing 55kmph like **** did. Bull...shit! He was doing a lot more than 55 and telling people otherwise to make him seem like a victim. Just like all the distracted drivers do.

I'm in a truck, and you'd be surprised as to how many cars I can see into with a phone in their lap or holding it just a bit lower than their steering wheel to make it look like they're head isn't pointed down.

If I get a text while driving, fuck it. If its that important they can call me and I'll push the button on the steering wheel and answer the call.
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