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06-06-2016, 05:07 PM
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#26 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Nope. Get your car out and find somewhere else
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06-06-2016, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LightKeeper  The strange thing is he asked me for money up front so he can buy the parts and fix it on his own to avoid taxes.
And, he towed my car to his home without my permission! Is that even legal?
Well, I don't mind paying a little more for warranty the legit way.
He was definitely not happy when I told him I want to tow it back.
I'm afraid now he won't call me back and I will have to go and confront him to get it back. | that's shady as fuck lol. is it in the Burnaby side or Vancouver side along Kingsway?
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06-06-2016, 05:24 PM
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#28 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Originally Posted by dared3vil0 Nope. Get your car out and find somewhere else | I think so too..
He was saying it will cost over 3000$ if I don't do it under the table.
I feel I'm being taken advantage of.
People are vicious.
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06-06-2016, 05:25 PM
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#29 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Originally Posted by impulseX that's shady as fuck lol. is it in the Burnaby side or Vancouver side along Kingsway? | It's on the Vancouver side of kingsway.
close to joyce station.
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06-06-2016, 05:44 PM
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Your 06 Lancer Ralliart has the 4G69 motor, which is similar to the EVO 4G63T motor. I believe there are three belts in these motors: accessory/serpentine belt, timing belt, and balance shaft belt. Here's an article from Jack's Transmissions (legendary transmission people in the EVO/DSM world) about it balance shafts and belts: Keep Your Balance Shafts ? Jacks Transmissions
It seems like a broken balance shaft belt can cause the timing belt to skip. When was the last time your balance shaft belt was replaced?
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06-06-2016, 07:09 PM
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Take your car to another shop, it's entirely possible the mechanic isn't screwing you.. but I wouldn't risk it.
It's hard to quote the repairs for a snapped timing belt until after the head comes off, even if you borescope the engine and there is no clear damage, you tend to see a lot more once the head is off.
I have seen interference engines suffer timing belt failure that did not result in any damage, as a general rule, if I scope the engine and it appears fine I will put a new timing belt on and perform a leak down test, if the leak down is good and the engine turns freely I will just leave it as is.
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06-06-2016, 07:57 PM
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#32 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Originally Posted by jcmaz
It seems like a broken balance shaft belt can cause the timing belt to skip. When was the last time your balance shaft belt was replaced?
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I'm not to knowledgeable on that balance shaft belt. I don't think it was replaced recently.
It can be the cause of this problem.
I'm more concerned with how to deal with this consequence more than figuring out how it happened though.
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06-06-2016, 08:01 PM
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1. Get your car out of that guys house and either home or some place reputable.
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06-06-2016, 08:06 PM
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#34 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Originally Posted by jasonturbo Take your car to another shop, it's entirely possible the mechanic isn't screwing you.. but I wouldn't risk it.
It's hard to quote the repairs for a snapped timing belt until after the head comes off, even if you borescope the engine and there is no clear damage, you tend to see a lot more once the head is off.
I have seen interference engines suffer timing belt failure that did not result in any damage, as a general rule, if I scope the engine and it appears fine I will put a new timing belt on and perform a leak down test, if the leak down is good and the engine turns freely I will just leave it as is. | The mechanic said he towed my car to his home and performed a check. That's why he gave me a quote today of 2200$ (without taxes).
I would love to have it run again by just installing a timing belt, but according to him it is not the case. I need to replace camshaft sensors and valves and the whole timing belt kit.
I still haven't heard back from the mechanic today. I will have to call him tomorrow.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he would charge me storage fees.
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06-06-2016, 08:15 PM
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Sorry, but if in doubt-- tow it out. Sounds like youre being taken for a ride..better to eat the 1 hour diagnostic fee or whatever the fuck hes charging than get hosed for much, much more.
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06-06-2016, 08:29 PM
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#36 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by dn53 Sorry, but if in doubt-- tow it out. Sounds like youre being taken for a ride..better to eat the 1 hour diagnostic fee or whatever the fuck hes charging than get hosed for much, much more. | So much this. And consider the shady as fuck mechanic will probably cut the corners on the work he does... Yikes.
Tow is to a sponsor shop. Don't wait. Have the tow truck show up at 9:00am tmrw op. seriously.
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06-06-2016, 08:36 PM
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#37 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Originally Posted by dn53 Sorry, but if in doubt-- tow it out. Sounds like youre being taken for a ride..better to eat the 1 hour diagnostic fee or whatever the fuck hes charging than get hosed for much, much more. | I totally got that feeling when he asked "do you have some money? I need it for parts" I had a feeling that phrase would keep coming.
At this point I wasn't even sure if I'm going to do it yet since he just broke the news to me that it will cost that much. I told him don't do any work to it yet. And all he's was trying to convince me was that he ordered the parts already. "paid with his credit card" he claimed. I told him I will call him back because I want to discuss this with someone first.
An hour later, I called him and told him I couldn't afford this and I asked him to tow it back to the shop so I can tow it home. He was like "shit, I thought you wanted to get it fix. It's still a good car you know?" I'm telling him I'm not sure if it's worth it since my car doesn't worth that much. Then he said it won't worth it if I sell it out again.. And then he's said he was busy so he'll call me back later.
Which the call never came back today. So I will have to call him tomorrow.
I honestly don't know if my car is back at the shop or not at this moment.
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06-06-2016, 08:43 PM
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#38 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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Yeah... even if he purchased the parts with his credit card he will have no problems returning them (Lordco, napa, wherever-- I do it all the time). The very most you pay him for the time he spent diagnosing the vehicle, and tow it out.
$5 says the car does not need have the things he says it does, and is afraid to be caught in his lie when overlooked by someone else.
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06-06-2016, 08:46 PM
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I would have called the cops if someone towed my car to another location without my permission
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06-06-2016, 09:01 PM
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#40 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Thanks for the advice everyone.
I will see what happens tomorrow.
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06-06-2016, 09:16 PM
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First things first, you need to get your car back from this guys house and/or shop.
Don't let him strong arm you into keeping it, or feed you some sob story.
Tell him you want your car back NOW. Not tomorrow, not in a few hours, now. Ask for his address and get the tow truck driver to pick it up there if need be. If he dicks you around, threaten to call the cops.
Once you have your car back, you can then tow it to a proper shop when you've got the money.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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06-06-2016, 09:18 PM
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06-06-2016, 09:23 PM
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#43 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Originally Posted by Lowered_Klass First things first, you need to get your car back from this guys house and/or shop.
Good luck and keep us posted. | He said he took everything apart today to check the damage. I was thinking I don't want him to leave any part of my car out so I will give him time today.
But you're right, I feel more empowered to get it out now that I posted here.
Thank you and I will keep you guys posted.
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06-06-2016, 09:24 PM
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Like others have said, get your car from him ASAP. Call him up now and tell him to tow it back right away or you'll be calling the cops and reporting it stolen. If any parts are missing, report them stolen as you didn't authorize this clown to move your car or to take it apart at his house.
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06-06-2016, 10:05 PM
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More often than not your timing belt will be inside your engine making it very difficult to extract whereas accessory belt you can actually see by opening your hood. If he's saying he already pulled out the belt then I'd be very suspicious since it takes some effort to get to a timing belt in the first place. Someone correct me if I'm wrong with Lancer engines.
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06-06-2016, 10:15 PM
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#46 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Originally Posted by The_AK More often than not your timing belt will be inside your engine making it very difficult to extract whereas accessory belt you can actually see by opening your hood. If he's saying he already pulled out the belt then I'd be very suspicious since it takes some effort to get to a timing belt in the first place. Someone correct me if I'm wrong with Lancer engines. | The belt he showed me was dangling outside on top of the engine. It is to the left of the engine. I could see it clearly that it is ripped with a piece dangling.
It can very well be the accessory/serpentine belt that blew since the timing belt is harder to get to.
I wish I had a picture, but my phone had to run out just when I take a picture of it.
It's also strange now that I think about it. After we pushed the car into the shop to try starting it. The first thing he said was "oh shit I think the timing belt broke"
And then I told him I changed it not too long ago and it is clear written on the engine that it was serviced at ~150000.
I had a different thought in my mind, thinking it is fuel related. But my car was left in the lowest priority of all the other cars all day.
I was literally there waiting for him to talk to me about what was wrong until pretty much the end of the day to show me that broken belt.
So, pretty much I wasted my whole Saturday for him to quote me this much today.
And on that day it was hot as hell, I was steaming. I had to take the sky train home.
Also, when he opened it up today. He was saying how the previous mechanic didn't replace the timing belt at all as "everything was original".
I told him the previous mechanic showed me the belt he changed.
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06-06-2016, 10:44 PM
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Don't let him dick you around with stuff like Quote: |
"shit, I thought you wanted to get it fix. It's still a good car you know?"
| You didn't give him consent to tow your car or take it apart.
People like this are the same type of people that will just do things without your consent like take it for a spin to meet up friends at a car meet afterwards.
Probably won't even get your car back for weeks or months.
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06-06-2016, 10:44 PM
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#48 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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Originally Posted by LightKeeper When the car broke down, it felt like it was out of gas. Everything shut down and all the lights were on. I didn't hear much of a loud noise either.
I wasn't going too fast maybe 40km/h after a redlight. The car would not start up after. At first I thought it was fuel pump or filter related.
It turned out it was some belt.. I think it could be an accessory belt like you said.
I'm afraid I'm no expert so I didn't check if there were teeth mark in the belt.
If he's trying to deceive me then shame on him!
He still haven't called me back today. I'm hoping to get it back tomorrow. | Probably the alternator belt.
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06-06-2016, 10:45 PM
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Does it look like the belt in the diagram of a 4g69 engine? If so, it's the serpentine belt.  | |
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06-06-2016, 10:48 PM
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#50 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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This part:
"When the car broke down, it felt like it was out of gas. Everything shut down and all the lights were on. I didn't hear much of a loud noise either.
I wasn't going too fast maybe 40km/h after a redlight. The car would not start up after. At first I thought it was fuel pump or filter related."
Makes me think 99% it's the serpentine belt. Timing belt snapping would make an insane noise.
Get your car back right the hell now.
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