Canada Post Strike
 

As we know Canada Post might be going on strike anytime soon.

What would happen and how long will it be? Will it be like several months like BC Teachers strike?

Apparently all the businesses(including online stores) and governments are preparing for it. :okay:

CRA just had a strike vote last week as well

So no one is processing tax and doing audit?

Can I go strike too?

I laughed when I read that as well, stay out as long as you want CRA nobody will give a fuck other then the Government not getting it's tax revenue.

I work as a letter carrier for Canada Post and I hear that the corporation will probably lock us out before we strike.

Not sure how long it will last and nobody will able to answer that question for you.

It may be off topic, but CRA has so many employees. I wonder why.

IRS has approx. 89,500 employees and CRA has approx. 45,000 employees.

Population of Canada: 35 million
Population of USA: 319 million

If you look at the ratio:

1 CRA employee / 777 people
1 IRS employee / 3564 people

That's approx 4.6 times more employees, which is quite a difference.
I don't know how tax agencies work, but CRA must be doing something inefficient or have too many employees?

In theory, CRA should be able to operate with 9,782 employees, not 45,000.

Lock employees out? How is that possible? I think they have a union contract?

Watch this video:

Never heard crazy stories about CRA but IRS is scary as fuck. Perhaps just way too many cases of tax evasion in the States.

That's what people say... when I read news about CRA cracking down small business owners tax miscalculations and all that stuff, people comment how scary CRA can be because they collect tax/interest/penulties very aggressively.

But then people comment stuff like "You think CRA is scary? Try dealing with IRS. They make CRA look like Girl Guides."

How you are able to draw the conclusion that the IRS is efficient (and therefore the CRA is inefficient), simply based on the # of employees to population ratio is concerning.

What about how much tax is collected? What about how much tax is uncollected that you don't know about because there isn't enough enforcement? What if the IRS is collecting "4.6x times" less than it is able to do?

Efficiency/inefficiency is much more than just the # of employees you pull from wikipedia.

yeah I get your point, but to be fair, what you're saying is "what if" statement too.

What if IRS was collecting more taxes than CRA?

I don't know for the fact, so this argument is invalid too, but yea, I get your point as well.

Title was misleading.. came in here thinking they really did go strike already but just google and its July 02

Last chance to send mail to ensure delivery: Canada Post
Josh Elliott, CTVNews.ca
Published Wednesday, June 29, 2016 8:14AM EDT

When do I need to send mail to beat a Canada Post service disruption? | CTV News

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Canada Post vehicles sit outside a sorting depot in the Ville St-Laurent borough of Montreal, in this June 6, 2011 photo. (Graham Hughes / THE CANADIAN PRESS)

Whether you need to pay your phone bill, return an online purchase or send a card to your grandmother, Wednesday is the last day to mail your items and ensure they are delivered on time in the event of a service disruption, Canada Post says.

With no deal in place between Canada Post and the union representing its employees, and a July 2 deadline just around the corner, mail delivery in Canada appears on the verge of grinding to a halt. Canada Post says June 29 is the last possible day to mail an item without it becoming trapped in possible lockout limbo, although you may have to pay for a premium delivery option to get that package to its destination on time.

If you're concerned about a speedy delivery, Canada Post says it's already too late to send an expedited parcel through the mail to a destination in your general region, or to send an Xpresspost letter nationally or regionally. However, you can still send a parcel anywhere in the country, if you can get it to the post office by the end of the day and send it as a priority package. Wednesday is also the last possible day to send an expedited parcel or Xpresspost letter to a local destination, without it getting stuck along the way.

Canada Post and the Canadian Union of Postal Workers have been without a contract since 2015, and the two sides remain far apart with a negotiation deadline looming on July 2. The union said on Tuesday that it has asked Canada Post for a two-week extension on the "cooling-off period that would otherwise entail a termination of their contract on July 2."

Canada Post says it's already advised businesses to make contingency plans in the event of a work stoppage. Spokesperson Jon Hamilton says Canada Post is also open to the possibility of using volunteers to deliver social assistance cheques, although they "are not at that point just yet."

What you need to know about the potential Canada Post strike
Important information for managing the potential Canada Post strike on July 2
CBC News Posted: Jun 29, 2016 5:10 PM ET Last Updated: Jun 29, 2016 5:19 PM ET

What you need to know about the potential Canada Post strike - Latest Hamilton news - CBC Hamilton

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Postal workers duing a 24 hour strike in Calgary, Alta. on June 8, 2011. The Canadian Union of Postal Workers is in the position to strike again as of July 2, 2016. (Jeff McIntosh/Canadian Press)

As of July 2, the Canadian Union of Postal Workers will be in a position to strike, which will stop all mail delivery and services through Canada Post.

Updates are being posted on the Canada Post and CUPW websites, but there are a few key points to know in the case of a strike.

It's not the first time

This is potentially the fifth widespread disruption to mail delivery in just over three decades in Canada.

The last labour disruption, in 2011, lasted three weeks. Postal workers were ordered back when the Federal government tabled back-to-work legislation. Prior strikes have been held in 1987, 1991 and 1997.

The Liberal government under Prime Minister Trudeau has confirmed that the government would not table back-to-work legislation in the case of a strike.

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This may be the fifth Canada Post strike in just over three decades.

But you do still have time

Wednesday June 29 is the last day to ensure delivery by June 30 for local expedited parcels, Xpress post and Priority Shipping.

Mail service is cancelled this Friday July 1 for the Canada Day holiday.

Essential services will continue

The only service in the event of a strike will be the delivery of pension and social assistance cheques, which the CUPW has guaranteed in agreements with Canada Post.

The union has also ensured the safety of any live animals caught up in the mailing system at the time of a strike.

For those receiving cheques during the strike, there is a maximum of two days of delivery each month, to be determined by the union.

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Mail delivery could stop as early as July 2nd if Canada Posts forces a lockout or the unions strike. (CBC News)

A strike is not an excuse

All utility ills and payments are due on schedule, and late payments will not be accepted as a result of the strike. All individuals are recommended to use online payment systems and E-Billing to mitigate any late charges or fees.

Hydro provider Horizon Utilities has a guide to self-serve billing for all Hamilton and St. Catharines customers on their website.

National corporations including Bell and Rogers have already been notifying customers to use online services to pay their bills, the due dates of which will not be affected by a potential strike.

Customers are reminded of online banking sites to manage payments, and the Canadian Revenue Agency's website is available for government dealings throughout the strike period.

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President and CEO of Canada Post Deepak Chopra has officially rejected a request to extend the July 2 deadline for negotiations, according to the CUPW. (Pawel Dwulit/Canadian Press)

It's not looking good

Ninety per cent of union members voted in favour of a strike, and Canada Post CEO Deepak Chopra officially rejected a letter requesting a two-week extension for the July 2 lockout.

The work stoppage would affect approximately 50,000 workers across Canada, including mail delivery personnel.

For more information and updates visit Canada Post's website and the Canadian Union of Postal Workers.

I guess delivering mail two times a week is too much for these folks to handle.

lol we already got hit with ppl preparing for this. Those who use CP as their main delivery is going to have to use FedEx/UPS/Purolator. Worked 11.5hrs today :drunk:

about 15% of my 2016 revenue is somewhere between a submitted invoice, and a cheque coming in the mail. all my payments come via cheque in the mail. i've got 8 employees who will always get their pay cheques on time, and mountains of monthly bills and operating costs, who gets hurt here?



fuck unions

what are you guys requesting? how much of a wage / benefits increase ... and what's your general reasoning for the request?

I don't think they were asking for any increases, the gov't is looking to take away some of the benefits. There is probably more to it though.

Oh boy, here we go again............. union bashing and "How come they get this?" and "How come I don't get that." My butt is hurt 'cause I work my ass off and don't get half the benefits they do, and it's my tax dollars, so it IS my business, yada, yada, yada......... it is what it is.

Get over it.

We all have friends and relatives who are nurses, teachers, bus drivers, postal workers, cops, firefighters, longshorman, etc. And, everybody wants what they think is fair. Sometimes it is about shit getting taken away. Anyway, I'll leave it at that, sit back, and watch the gong show that usually results from these types of threads.

Carry on carrying on................ god bless.

maybe this deepak chopra can talk them out of a strike

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A friend of mine is a mail carrier. If my front splitters don't arrive because of this I am going to hold him accountable.

If it is a long strike, private mail courier forwarding companies will pop out of the woodwork. Being a stamp collector, I have a few of these private label stamps from previous postal strikes. They were used to forward mail to the US. One local, well, sort of local, company called the BECEMS printed and used "Juan de Fuca Despatch" stamps to forward mail to Port Angeles, Wa. from Victoria, BC. during the 1965, 1975 and 1992 postal strike years. A valid US postage stamp was used along with the surcharge (for lack of a better word) stamp/label.

I think I'll do that and send mail to el bastardo. Might turn out to be a worthy collectable, LOL.

BTW, these postal label/stamps come under the category of "Cinderella" Stamps. Stamps used, but not issued by the originating government postal administration. Usually must be accompanied with a valid postage stamp.


As a side note, this company issued beautiful labels for Expo 86. I need to get a hold of a set.