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Old 09-26-2009, 05:17 PM   #81
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Lets not get TOO far ahead of ourselves. The ZR-1 isn't so bad....

you know what, corvettes are actually one of my favorite cars.
i just simply dont like the fact that many corvette drivers are ignorant people.
and think their corvettes are the best in the world.

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I don't think you can really say that FWD cars don't perform as well as RWD cars in a blanket statement. About the only thing you can say is that they're at a disadvantage: it takes more work to make a FWD car as fast as a comparable RWD car in motorsports.

OP: Same idea with the Mazda3 vs Si argument. I had a Mazda3, a 4dr 2.3L 5MT just like yours. With a little prep work (coilovers, swaybars, camber links, brake pads, ate superblue, intake, exhaust, wider stickier tires), I was practically running circles around the Si in my run group the last time I brought the car out to a lapping day. Yes the Si is a faster car out of the box, but that doesn't mean it has to stay that way =).
yaya. i havve about the same modification
and it handles quite nice, just takes alot of thraottle control around the corners to keep traction

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Old 09-26-2009, 05:17 PM   #82
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Lets not get TOO far ahead of ourselves. The ZR-1 isn't so bad....

sure.

but Mr. Zulu, drives a base model corvette from the '90s.
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but Mr. Zulu, drives a base model corvette from the '90s.
Preach! ZR1 is a totally different animal all together.

Zulu is just a dumb ass douche bag that likes to generalize with out knowing what the fuck he's talking about.
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performance is good n all, but lets talk comfort... my GS is up there, all it lacks it the flight attendant asking if you need another pillow.

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OK, I`m going on a rant here. I hate people like you. Why? You're ignorant and completely full of yourself. Guess what? Reality kick here.... not all of us had money handed down to us from Mommy and Daddy, won the lottery, or were stupid enough to take out a loan to buy an expensive vette.
Are you implying that because you're stupid and poor, I had to get my money from my parents? I actually moved around internationally, started different businesses, and became successful from my own sweat and blood. Go fuck yourself.

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If I was to dump the same amount of money that you spent on your vette into my GSR, I'd rape you on the track any day of the week. Just because you have money, doesn't make you better than the rest of us, so grow up.
Uh, probably not. The C5 is the best bang for the buck performance car you can buy these days. If we spend $1 for every $1 the other spends, I guarantee you my car will run like a raped ape (it already does), and yours... well... it'll make a BUZZZZZ sound down the street. I will always accelerate harder, brake harder, and turn harder than you. Not to mention, being able to STREET DAILY DRIVE AT OVER 650HP (7psi procharger) as opposed to... you... who would need a trailer and probably grenade anyway. Fuck, go checkout the DPE corvette on youtube, that beasts at 920hp (13psi).

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Friday October 2nd for the street legals. Put your money where you fat mouth is.
Uh, I'm in SoCal kiddo. You're welcome to come join the big boys whenever you want.

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but Mr. Zulu, drives a base model corvette from the '90s.
I bought my vette for cash and sent it to Felix Cadillac for some upgrades, and it's not from the 90s. Listen to the video above and guess the current displacement.


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Zulu is just a dumb ass douche bag that likes to generalize with out knowing what the fuck he's talking about.
No, I'm the guy in the corvette that sounds like it's about to rip your face of, and you're the guy in the h22. hahaha.
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I don't think you can really say that FWD cars don't perform as well as RWD cars in a blanket statement. About the only thing you can say is that they're at a disadvantage: it takes more work to make a FWD car as fast as a comparable RWD car in motorsports.

OP: Same idea with the Mazda3 vs Si argument. I had a Mazda3, a 4dr 2.3L 5MT just like yours. With a little prep work (coilovers, swaybars, camber links, brake pads, ate superblue, intake, exhaust, wider stickier tires), I was practically running circles around the Si in my run group the last time I brought the car out to a lapping day. Yes the Si is a faster car out of the box, but that doesn't mean it has to stay that way =).
i agree, stock suspension on the 3 is pretty decent for wat it is already
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Are you implying that because you're stupid and poor, I had to get my money from my parents? I actually moved around internationally, started different businesses, and became successful from my own sweat and blood. Go fuck yourself.



Uh, probably not. The C5 is the best bang for the buck performance car you can buy these days. If we spend $1 for every $1 the other spends, I guarantee you my car will run like a raped ape (it already does), and yours... well... it'll make a BUZZZZZ sound down the street. I will always accelerate harder, brake harder, and turn harder than you. Not to mention, being able to STREET DAILY DRIVE AT OVER 650HP (7psi procharger) as opposed to... you... who would need a trailer and probably grenade anyway. Fuck, go checkout the DPE corvette on youtube, that beasts at 920hp (13psi).



Uh, I'm in SoCal kiddo. You're welcome to come join the big boys whenever you want.



I bought my vette for cash and sent it to Felix Cadillac for some upgrades, and it's not from the 90s. Listen to the video above and guess the current displacement.




No, I'm the guy in the corvette that sounds like it's about to rip your face of, and you're the guy in the h22. hahaha.
Wow, we now have a Marco911 of the 'Vette variety!
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There are many fwd cars that I like that are faster than my car but even so, I'd prefer mine. It's more about how well it feels than how fast it drives.
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Kid, do your research. I'm not exactly new.
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i never knew v6's were fail... considering some of the best engines ever made were twin turbo v6's.
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Old 09-26-2009, 10:22 PM   #91
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im fairly certain you once photoshopped a swastika on the forehead of some girl and posted on RS
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Are you implying that because you're stupid and poor, I had to get my money from my parents? I actually moved around internationally, started different businesses, and became successful from my own sweat and blood. Go fuck yourself.
Nope. I'm just saying that just because you have money doesn't make you special. Obviously it's a sensitive subject for you, so i'll leave it alone

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Uh, probably not. The C5 is the best bang for the buck performance car you can buy these days. If we spend $1 for every $1 the other spends, I guarantee you my car will run like a raped ape (it already does), and yours... well... it'll make a BUZZZZZ sound down the street. I will always accelerate harder, brake harder, and turn harder than you. Not to mention, being able to STREET DAILY DRIVE AT OVER 650HP (7psi procharger) as opposed to... you... who would need a trailer and probably grenade anyway. Fuck, go checkout the DPE corvette on youtube, that beasts at 920hp (13psi).
No, you don't get what I'm saying. I don't know about where you're from, but around here, expect to pay about $25,000 for a C5 Vette. Great. Now, I bought my GSR for about $4,000. So that leaves me with $21,000 in mods I'd have to make just to spend the same amount on my car as you did on yours. If I were to do that, the GSR would be well ahead of you. Of course, I'm not going to, because I have other financial priorities in my life like buying a house, but you should at least see what I'm saying here.

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It all makes sense now. Please stay there.
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It all makes sense now. Please stay there.
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I was just about to say, you and your marco911 sentiments are getting old.
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Return in style amirite? ;P
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maybe look at the AMS evo? lol

2.3L 4 cyl with 1130AWHP, you can kiss that 4 cyl ass good bye

daily drivable, and winter drivable as well, you just have a to be a good driver
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No, you don't get what I'm saying. I don't know about where you're from, but around here, expect to pay about $25,000 for a C5 Vette. Great. Now, I bought my GSR for about $4,000. So that leaves me with $21,000 in mods I'd have to make just to spend the same amount on my car as you did on yours. If I were to do that, the GSR would be well ahead of you. Of course, I'm not going to, because I have other financial priorities in my life like buying a house, but you should at least see what I'm saying here.

i dont understand this logic. lets say sum dude had a lambo. i drove a sti. spent the $300 000 difference in upgrades i would still be totally behind. because im still driving a fucking Subaru. plus id look like a fucking moron spending 300k on a car worth a tenth of the price.
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What he's trying to say is, there are a lot of other things in life that are far more important than fast and expensive cars.
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Is this the same FB RX7 Zulu?

If so, good job on the vette, that's just a little bit of an upgrade hey?
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lol, can't believe this is still going on. Just be happy with what you drive and stop shitting on other people's cars. If you keep bragging about your car, karma's gonna get you, and some idiots gonna run a red and T-bone your precious car. Then it's gone.

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fwds might have less potential but i wouldn't say their performance is non
existent O.o?

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Once I went back to RWD it was hard to think of anything else ever again...until I saw the new Euro Focus RS. That is one car (If we ever saw it in Canada) that I would rock and its 100% FWD. This thing is an STi and Evo contender and because of its limited slip, has nearly zero torque steer. 305-hp, 2.5L five-cylinder motor with 325 lb-ft of torque!

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Once I went back to RWD it was hard to think of anything else ever again...until I saw the new Euro Focus RS. That is one car (If we ever saw it in Canada) that I would rock and its 100% FWD. This thing is an STi and Evo contender and because of its limited slip, has nearly zero torque steer. 305-hp, 2.5L five-cylinder motor with 325 lb-ft of torque!

Looks better than the current gen STI too.
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Looks better than the current gen STI too.
not to mention
IT SOUNDS BADASS!
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I have pointed out in one of the post that it is the RevoKnuckle that does most of the job of keeping the contact patches on the ground. The Quaife LSD provides even power.

Hopefully RevoKnuckle will survive to the next generation and we will get it in the 11 Focus.

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i dont understand this logic. lets say sum dude had a lambo. i drove a sti. spent the $300 000 difference in upgrades i would still be totally behind. because im still driving a fucking Subaru. plus id look like a fucking moron spending 300k on a car worth a tenth of the price.
No STI needed. A civic with 20G under the hood will do the job!

Notice; street tires on the civic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaSk6atfuHA

Better view
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE6X5AX_wN8

You were saying?
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who cares if its faster than a lambo. its always gonna be a civic. which part of this do you not understand.
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who cares if its faster than a lambo. its always gonna be a civic. which part of this do you not understand.
That's because the brand and image are more important than you. Not everyone cares about that when they're buying a car.

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who cares if its faster than a lambo. its always gonna be a civic. which part of this do you not understand.
I always think talk like this is funny.

Its kind of like those "Even if you win driving a Honda, your still retarded" pictures. Who is more retarded, the guy who drives the eco box, or the guy who just raced and lost to an eco box?

Im a car guy. I like cars. Doesn’t matter what it is, Ill give anyone respect if they like a car enough to put some effort and money into it. Doesn’t matter if its a Cavalier or Lambo, if you like it and its done tastefully, good on you. I personally like Hondas, a lot. Some guys dont, that’s okay.

But to say "who cars if its faster than a Lambo, its still a civic" is pretty goofy. The lambo took his car to a drag strip, and got knocked. That’s a funny race, the bottom basement civic Vs a very high end car. The bargain eco box wins.

Anyone would half a brain would take the Lambo over the civic, but give the guy some props for building what looks to be a pretty clean quick FWD car. Saying "who cares, its still a civic" just makes you sound butt hurt.
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but its a lamborghini murcielago....

some of you guys remind me of the dude in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojB7KkaR03I
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Old 09-28-2009, 02:29 PM   #114
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who cares if its faster than a lambo. its always gonna be a civic. which part of this do you not understand.
^ A response from someone who has nothing better to say.
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Old 09-28-2009, 03:40 PM   #115
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but around here, expect to pay about $25,000 for a C5 Vette. Great. Now, I bought my GSR for about $4,000. So that leaves me with $21,000 in mods I'd have to make just to spend the same amount on my car as you did on yours. If I were to do that, the GSR would be well ahead of you. Of course, I'm not going to, because I have other financial priorities in my life like buying a house, but you should at least see what I'm saying here.
Let's run the numbers.
On CL, $25,000 can get you this Z06.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rc...393686391.html
or this regular C5.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pm...392443543.html

Say you had a GSR for $4000. What mods would you do with $21,000?
Say you spend $7K for a turbo kit. $2K on a set of light weight wheels and R-comp tires.
$3K for coil-overs, sway bars, and strut tower bars.
$1500 on an LSD, $500-1K for upgraded clutch, $$$ for an engine build. BBK?
Exhaust?
CF hood and trunk to save weight. Your $21K isn't going to go too far and will your GSR keep up with either of those 2 Vettes on the track? Say the only mods on either of those 2 cars are race pads and R-comp tires.
And can you DD that GSR with a heavy race clutch?
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I would choose that lambo for DD over the civic even though the civic is faster (If I were to choose one for a drag race, i would choose the civic obviously).

OVERALL, for me the lambo is a far better car than that civic in the video. Everything from Aesthetics, driving experience(mid engine, V12, seating position, etc), identity, brand + model history and tradition, comfort, material of choice, quality, image, and a lot of unmeasurable factors that spanks that civic.

Chris Bangle refers to great cars as "art", which I can totally relate to. There is just so much more beyond performance in a car that a lot of people tend to neglect.
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That turbo Civic VS murcielago doesnt prove anything other than its a quick dragster.

It doesnt mean the Civic is BETTER than the murcielago. It just proves its FASTER in a straight line.

Murcielago would still win all around.

Lets take the same cars to a race track and do a lap. I think the lambo would win.

Take the same cars to, say Robson and cruise, I think the lambo would turn more heads.

Take the same cars to a nice scenic place for a photoshoot. I think the lambo would make more little boys jizz in their pants.

Props to the Civic's owner for building a car HE likes. But it still aint better than a Lambo imo.
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Is this really happening? A Honda is being put beside a Lamborghini for comparison? Please refrain from stating the complete obvious.
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Let's run the numbers.
On CL, $25,000 can get you this Z06.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rc...393686391.html
or this regular C5.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pm...392443543.html

Say you had a GSR for $4000. What mods would you do with $21,000?
Say you spend $7K for a turbo kit. $2K on a set of light weight wheels and R-comp tires.
$3K for coil-overs, sway bars, and strut tower bars.
$1500 on an LSD, $500-1K for upgraded clutch, $$$ for an engine build. BBK?
Exhaust?
CF hood and trunk to save weight. Your $21K isn't going to go too far and will your GSR keep up with either of those 2 Vettes on the track? Say the only mods on either of those 2 cars are race pads and R-comp tires.
And can you DD that GSR with a heavy race clutch?


If he's buying a $4k GSR odds are he can't afford the $7k to make it go fast in the first place.

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Old 09-28-2009, 11:00 PM   #120
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No STI needed. A civic with 20G under the hood will do the job!

Notice; street tires on the civic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaSk6atfuHA

Better view
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE6X5AX_wN8

You were saying?
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