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Old 02-28-2005, 08:00 PM   #1
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Old 02-28-2005, 08:08 PM   #2
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yes... and sigh.. i gotta start saving everything i post.. ive posted info like 10000 times. hold on.. ill go search and.. post it.
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Old 02-28-2005, 08:36 PM   #3
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actually just ask me questions. ill make a formal thing that ill save for purposes such as this one..

ask away. ill throw in anything relevant you need to know as well.
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do u gotta be in good shape? take tests? how is training and hwat is involved? what kind of jobs are available? is there fulltime?

just want to know cuz my back is kinda fucked up and i might have to change career and i'm considering the army. i have more questions just cant remember at the moment.

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You have to be in good medical condition

you have to beable to do at least 19 pushups in one min. i think 19 situps (with someone holding down your feet) in one min. run 2.4k in 12min or less (they dont really test you on this, you do this step test and almost anyone can pass that). theres a grip test you must pass, and it is RECOMMENDED that you can do 6 pull ups but they dont test you on that.

what kind of "jobs" are there?
trades avaliable in BC to the reserves are:
-Infantry
-Armoured Recon
-Combat Engineer
-Medic
-Communications
-gunner (artillary)
-cook
-clerk
-MSE OP (drive various vehicles, of all shapes and sizes)
-vehicle technician
-weapons technician
-storesmen (kinda like a warehouse manager, you keep track of all the equipment and stuff)
-Military police

fulltime? not really. if you tell them you need more time they might give you some stuff if they need people to work.
we work on class A contracts which mean we sign in every time we work. to get class B contracts (basically like regular force, you are on duty 24/7 and get paid 24/7 but u only work like 4-5 days a week) is really hard for a reservist. and if you do get a class B contract its usually not for long, unless it is training.

the issue with your back.. how bad is it? during basic training and soldier qualification you may be required to lift some heavy items and individuals for prolong periods of time.

training involves: BMQ (basic military qualification) and SQ (soldier qualification). those are one month each. taken during the summer.

and also your QL3 which is your trades qualification, and the time varies from a few weeks to a few months depending on your trade.

all courses you take will most probably be during the summer unless they are advanced like techinician on the job training which lasts for 6 months and you maybe deployed somewhere in canada to get that training. all those are class B contracts.

they are starting to run weekend BMQ/SQ courses due to the fact that reservists have to go to school and have full time jobs that they cant just walk off on when they are called to train. weekend BMQ/SQ are run typically friday nights to sunday nights. every other week. so it takes a few months to finish what would typically take 1 month.

if you REALLY want full time, you will have to join the reg force, which has a contract (i dont know the lengths avaliable).

reservists have no contract. but you cannot just walk off the job anytime. anytime you are on the job, whether it be on class A, B, or especially C (C is when you get deployed on a mission), you are under the queens rules and regulations. which means you can be charged for misconduct, absent without leave...etc. the list goes on forever. you have to obey the federal laws, the provincial laws, like a good civilian, and ontop of that, you have to obey military laws.

to quit the reserves, you must request it and sign some papers, which can take some time. depending on the reason and the urgency. usually they just tell you that you dont have to show up anymore and thats that, and a few months down the road they call you to sign the final peice of paper regarding your release. but if its something like youre moving out of the country next week, they'll speed the process up and release you asap.

umm im suprised you havnt asked about pay.
pay: we dont get paid by the hour like normal jobs. we get paid by half day (less than 6 hours), or full day (6 to 24 hours). and pay depends on your rank. and within each rank there are a certain number or levels.

for example. private is the lowest rank. and within private there are 3 levels.
each year you go up a level, which means your pay goes up a little bit. until your third year, because privates only have 3 levels.

during class B contracts, you are "working" 24/7 therefore you get paid a full days pay 7 days a week, for however long the contract lasts. now this doesnt mean youre actually working your ass off 24/7. it just means if needed, they can order you to do something or whatever even on the weekends. but typically class B contracts you work monday-friday. and you get fridays off early. and thats that.

different ranks have different amounts of levels. corporals have 5 levels within them. so you are guarenteed a raise every year for 5 years if you are a corporal.

what else.. benefits... http://recruiting.dnd.ca you'll have to find out more there. i know they cover dental and some other stuff, but im not entirely sure.

school benefits. if you are working on something that will lead to a degree or has relevance to your trade, the military will reimburse you 50% or 2000 dollars of your tuition per year (whichever is lower) up to 8000 dollars (a total of 4 years).
this will have to be your first degree, and they will not pay for any courses you withdraw or fail. they will pay for your pens pencils, books.. everything, as long as you keep the receipts. mind you, this process takes a while, as does anything with the government, like joining the reserves. so if i were you. i would join asap, because of the lengthy process, you can change your mind anytime, just that if you want to make summer training, which typically is the only time you'll do your BMQ/SQ, id start the application process now. we're not like the americans, you cant just sign up and 2 weeks later you're at boot camp.

oh by the way, some MUST requirements:
-16 years of age
-grade 10 education
-canadian citizen
-a relatively clean background
-no outstanding err business with the law if you know what i mean.

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dont be intimidated by the fact that you have to go through "boot camp"
as long as you show you are trying, you will pass. they will not fail someone that is trying.
the only way you can fail is, fucking up real bad (misconduct, really poor attitude, or getting charged for something severe), or failing practical or written tests multiple times.
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cool, thanks. do u have a site i can look into. definitly interested in weapons tech
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oh shit i shouldnt of mentioned weapons tech. the only unit that has weapons tech is 12 svc battalion in richmond (no 4 road and alderbridge)

the weapons tech positions are all filled up. i think we have more than we can handle.. but you can always try. you pick 3 trades. if u cant get the first one.. the second one.. if not.. then the 3rd one

oh if your eyes suck.. you cant be a combat arms (any battle trade, ie. infantry)
i mean really suck. like -3 or more. or perhaps -2.5 or more.
if you're -3.5 or more i think you cant even be an MSE OP (a driver).

edit: weapons tech trade is open.

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how often do you have to "go to work" when you're a reservist? every weekend?
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every thursday night typically from 7ish to 10-11ish.
depending. you sign a half days pay class A every thursday night so they can keep you up to a half day.. which is 6 hours. but that never ever happens. u usually get in around 710-730 and get off around 1030-11 at the latest. and then everyone goes drinking, and those who have to work the next day or go to school just go home.

once a month you go away for an exersize, it may be on base, or in barracks. but most probably in the field.
it typically lasts friday night to sunday afternoon.
you do some field training which varies from i duno.. battle proceedures to whatever they feel you guys need to train on.

during the summer if you need courses to qualify on, they'll ask you if you have time to go away and if you do you go away and train. if you dont, because of summer school or because of a job, then it's ok.

but if you never get courses, you'll never get qualified, and you'll never get promoted and you wont beable to do much except general duties (bitch work). you'll remain a no hook no rank private forever heh. so yeah. the younger you are. the better. cuz u get all your qualifications, then you get old and find a real job and you can just come in once a week and not worry about courses.

the reserves are very "slack" about schedules too.
they say "civilian life first, then military life" so if you have a test the next day, or that day.. or you cant make it for some private reason or wahtever. just phone em up. tell em and they say "ok thanks for the notice, cya next week"

thats it.
but if you dont show up for at least once a month, you get placed on NES. non effective strength, and your file gets reviewed and you may get the boot. and getting the boot in the military is NOT good. it basically puts a big dent in your government files and you probably will never work another government job ever again.

but under excruciating circumstances. say you have to go back to your home country for a funeral or some.. i duno. for some important reason u have to miss several months (like right now a friend has to return to hong kong to manage his mothers resturaunt for 6 months) they'll let you go. but you probably have to be in the good books. and give them notice well beforehand.

other than that. it's really slack. unless you're at boot camp thats a whole nother story. you'll see people getting warnings and disciplinary actions left and right like theres no tomorrow. but whatever, it's all a psychological game.

like forrest gump says. "Now for some reason I fit in the army like one of them round pegs. It's not really hard. You just make your bed real neat and remember to stand up straight and always answer every question with "Yes, drill sergeant.""

in this case, replace "drill sergeant" with whatever rank dude is screaming at you.

if any of you join and are going to go away on basic training, just give me a shout on this board and ill give you guys a buncha tips and tell you stories. what to do, what not to do etc..
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oh i think starting this march we get a 5% pay raise. here is the pay table for reserve non commissioned members.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/dgcb/dppd/pa...n=3&sidecat=28

of course during field deployments you get field pay which is i think 15 bucks more per day.

during class B or C where you are deployed to a base other than your own and you're living there you get 17 bucks more per day. (something like that, basically during all your training away from home u get an extra 17 bucks a day), this is non taxable. straight to your pocket.

and if you get class C deployment you get 20% more pay and depending where you are and who you're working under, you can get danger pay. and if you're with the UN, you'll get all this UN fancy pay stuff. not sure what NATO offers.

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anyone in there smoke?
umm of course not. smoking is prohibited. plus its bad for your health you know.

are you kidding me?! the stereotypical soldier smokes like a chimney and drinks like a fish!

during my trades course, i literally had to take a smoke break (there are no such things as normal breaks), every like 30min.

i dont smoke. but everyone else does. i had my quick nap in the smoke pit break. they had their death sticks break.

the rule was, if you're gonna be sitting around doing nothing in the time enough to have a smoke... it's smoke break time. haha

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I know you have to have short hair in the regular force. Can i still have a mullet in the reserve? Seriously, I would prefer my hair medium length for personal reasons.

What about urine tests? What banned substances are prohibited, not that i do drugs or use steroids.

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how often do reservists get deployed into a hot zone?
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what medical ests do you have to qualify?
eye exams?
blood tests?
urine samples?
hair samples?
anything else other than those?
...im not sure they actually do all of those.
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My brother is in it. He seems pretty busy all the time.

There's this website: www.recruiting.forces.gc.ca
I think it's the same what Ulic posted
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My brother is in it. He seems pretty busy all the time.

There's this website: www.recruiting.forces.gc.ca
I think it's the same what Ulic posted
What unit is your brother in? perhaps I know him. That'd be kinda cool.

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what medical ests do you have to qualify?
eye exams?
blood tests?
urine samples?
hair samples?
anything else other than those?
...im not sure they actually do all of those.
-Vision test
-Hearing test
-Urine sample
-A doctor checking you over when you're completely butt naked. JK. you're in your boxers. female docs check females, male doc checks males. so don't get your wishes up for some hot doc feeling you up.

all they do is check your heart rate, breathing, blood pressure, ask you where about the marks on your body, how you got em etc.

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how often do reservists get deployed into a hot zone?
"hot zone" as in a dangerous zone? and dangerous as in war type dangers? never. unless canada gets invaded or you volunteer to go on a peace keeping/humanitarian mission that is in a hot spot. reservists CANNOT go to war (other than canada being invaded). even if they wanted to they cannot go. IE. afghanistan 2001. when canada deployed to afghanistan it was for war. reservists did not have the choice to go. but in a few years or perhaps closer than a few years, afghanistan will become less dangerous and eventually drop to a safe level where they will deploy reservists for peacekeeping purposes.

the fires 2 years ago in kelowna. reservists were deployed there to fight the fires (only if you were free and wanted to go, like i said, civilian life first, if you have a job or school or.. make up a stupid ass exuse, you dont have to go). i would consider that a dangerous zone as well. lots of dangers fighting a fire, not just from the fires, trees falling on you, accidents happening. lots of things can go wrong. although you dont get "danger" pay for doing that. you do get deployed as CLASS C. That would be something reservists would be doing a lot. like floods, fires, you know helping canada out during natural disasters.

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I know you have to have short hair in the regular force. Can i still have a mullet in the reserve? Seriously, I would prefer my hair medium length for personal reasons.

What about urine tests? What banned substances are prohibited, not that i do drugs or use steroids.
no mullet. they have regulations that you have to follow, although you can push the regulations depending on your situation or seniority.

if you have a horrible scar on your lower neck where it would be exposed or something, they'll just tell you tough luck. although if say your hair was grown a bit thicker and you're able to hide it, then its ok. but ill tell you the restrictions shortly, you'll get a better idea.

for example: during basic training, you basically get the haircut that your section commander or platoon commander wants. if he wants everyone in the platoon to shave their heads. you're going to shave your head or get charged or kicked off the course.
but that never happens.
but during basic they like it short. army short.
after that, when you're back in your home base they'll make you follow regulations or sometimes let you slide a little.

last summer during my soldier qualification, this asian kid had the gangster viet bangs. he shaved the side and back of his hair but REFUSED to cut the bangs or the top of this head. it would be fine, except he was in boot camp. he got picked on A LOT. i think he got like 3 warnings and almost got charged. he cut it a LITTLE shorter. but he still got screamed at by the regimental sergeant major and every instructor that walked by when his hair was exposed. they instructors know its within regulations but you know, if you stand out, they'll pick on you. he didnt pass, he got charged later on for losing a peice of the weapon (it wasnt really his fault but hey, he was a rebel to their authority and a jackass to everyone around him) and he quit his training and is now in the process of quitting.

it's a team game. if you dont play with the team, sacrifice a little of yourself to keep your buddies out of trouble or whatever. everyone will hate you. you dont wanna be private pile from full metal jacket. he didnt do what the instructors said. his section gets punished. see where im going? but dont worry, im making it sound like it's some prison camp. it's not bad at all. dont scare yourself when you watch full metal jacket. its liek that but toned down by a lot heh.

the regulations are: (if you're indo canadian or have other religious reasons where your hair length is part of it, there are exceptions)

-side burns no longer than the middle of your ear. although ive seen some down to the end of their earlobe which is.. asking for a yelling at.

-back hair on your neck cannot exceed below the collar.

-sides and back must be tapered. (which means the back cannot be cut cleanly, it must be tapered above the collar, for those of you who dont know what tapered means, it means it basically goes from skin gradually to a hairlength)

-they're usually a little tougher on the newb platoon waiting to be sent to boot camp. but you can get away with a little.

-for instance, my hair almost goes below the collar a little. and my side burns are just barely at the middle of my ear. but during my BMQ/SQ/QL3 i had it harsh american USMC high and tight. 0 on the sides and back and a little stubble on top, it saves you the trouble of standing out, which means they'll pick on you more.

-mustaches cannot go below your upper lip. yes u have to cut it off at the end of your lips. if they exceed that you have to wax it and do the crazy captain hook curled mustache.

-no chin hair. no ghotees. nothing like that.

-the only exception is if you're trying to grow a short beard (like where your sideburns, cheek hairs, mustache, and chin hairs all connect like you havnt shaved in weeks). no you're not allowed santa clause style super long beards.

-now examples of senority: some guys have the sides of their heads and back of their heads kinda short.. just barely regulations. but the top of your head, they dont really care unless youre training. they have like that old school 40's gangster slicked back hair. it slicks all the way back to the back of their heads. so in reality the hair ontop of their head actually goes down to their nose if they were to pull it down.

-i sport a fauxhawk, kinda shorter though cuz i dont like long hair but yeah. you can get away with a lotta things. just not during boot camp.


as for drugs... i have no idea. no ILLEGAL drugs. basically if its not over the counter, or avaliable at london drugs, you'll get ding'd for it.

marijuana is out of the question.

during your interview they will ask you the typical interrogation questions. heh "do u have friends of questionable backgrounds?"

its funny they ask "do you do any illegal drugs?" you go "no" and then they hand you this nicely laminated paper and say "read this, perhaps it will refresh your memory" and on there, it lists all the illegal drugs haha.

it doesnt mean if youve done it before you wont get in. one of my QL3 buddies i met in edmonton said during his interview he said "yes i smoked marijuana" "the last time i smoked it was yesterday, but i will never smoke it again after i join" and he never has.

yes it is obvious that not every soldier obeys those rules. but they get caught. whether it be by hear say or wahtever. they will investigate. they said to me that "sometimes they will do random urine or blood tests" but thats never ever been done to me and ive never heard of it. although i wouldnt be surprized if some military police came up to me and told me to pee in a cup or else i'd get charged.

oh yeah back to the hair issue. haha dont dye your hair. well you can. you can dye it natural colors. whatever that means. if youre asian. dont dye your hair blonde. thats natural. but you'll get picked on a lot. dark brown or something subbtle will be ok. during basic training, just dont dye your hair or do anything a crazy leftist rebel tree hugger would do.

dont show up at the CF recruiting center or whatever, especially during your interview with neon green or pink hair or something like that.

oh.. if youre a girl just dismiss everything about hair regulations (except the crazy colored dye).

most instructors let girls have whatever hair they want as long as it doesnt interfere with their work because honestly, the girls hair regulation is really vague. basically dont have super long flowing hair. it has to be tied up or pony tailed or bunned up or whatever if its long hair.

if youre a girl with shorter style hair.. it cannot touch your shoulders. or else you'll have to tie it up. so if you want shorter hair but not tied up, it cannot touch your shoulders.

alright, heres one on JEWELRY..

during basic, it is prefered you do not wear anything. unless it is for religious reasons. i dont even know if a cross counts haha (im serious). they're kinda more gearing it towards ethnical religions, not christianity.

rings: one or two. i forgot. and it has to be significant, a wedding band/ring, a highschool or college or regiment ring. something like that. no cosmetic rings.

earrings: Males: NONE, females: one per ear, silver studs or something simple. no hoops or fancy diamonds.

peircings on your face: see above.

peircings on your body.. heh.. um. not like anyone would check unless you're coming out of the shower or whatever, but i wouldnt want it snagged on anything.

during field exersizes or working around machinery they prefer if you dont wear ANY jewelry, even religious ones. for safety reasons. especially if you're doing a "tactical" exersize
rings can get crushed and you're finger will be in pain. necklaces can get snagged. etc. the reason for no jewelry during tactical exersizes is, jewerly reflects. its shiny. anything shiny is NOT good. if the enemy sees it, you're busted. you wanan be as concealed as possible.

for girls, they recommend you remove your earrings, because sometimes you're in the field for prolong periods of times. things can get really gross. infections, etc. dotn want mushrooms growing out of your peircings hah.

i think thats it. damn that was long. if you have more questions. ask away.
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I would apply tommorow if they had a major base in the Lower Mainland for full-timers. I dont know why BC doesnt have one. Its like were not protected on a vital flank infantry/army wise. No offense.

What are the chances of them reopening the base in Chiliwack?

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Old 03-03-2005, 12:41 AM   #23
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I would apply tommorow if they had a major base in the Lower Mainland for full-timers. I dont know why BC doesnt have one. Its like were not protected on a vital flank infantry/army wise. No offense.
No idea why they shut down chilliwack. they shouldnt have. British columbia isnt really a "military" province. go around and everyone stares at you like youre an alien. they dont even know canada has an army. anywhere else in canada, especially cities with bases. they're all pro military.

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What are the chances of them reopening the base in Chiliwack?
next to never. the closest base is CFB edmonton

although CFB ASU (chiliwack) is still open, it's really really small. not even really a base. it's taken over by the RCMP. CFB ASU is basically the brigade stores for BC. all our gear goes there then they distribute it out to the units.
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:46 AM   #24
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I miss the food @ CFB Chiliwack.
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a lot of restrictions.. I dunno about the earring part. my bro has one.
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