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Evolutionian · 12-10-2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by !SG

the difference was grahams attempt at the media story was that he was asked, by the reporter, to race the other person. Graham was very specific in his words, but still got screwed in the end. he did his best to showcase the lifestyle side, the story did take a bit of it, but the focus was still on mocked race that was asked to be performed.

Freddy made the mistake of opening his mouth and giving the media so much ammo to work with, they were probably having a field day with how much good material they had to finish up the editting. Thats what ppl are complaining about. Yes the interview was editted, but when u say that much shit for them to work with, u might as well just sit there and let them rape u. Its one thing to piece the story in segments but there was clearly long sentences of information that did not need to be editted.

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Originally Posted by GSP

"If we were going to street race" ...haha...oh man.
Freddy,
If you were around long enough, you would have learned from history:

sorry whats the story behind the pic?

NSX · 12-10-2008, 08:25 AM

^^This was YEARS ago, when street racing was a getting raped by the media. This was before/during all those VI's were being handed out like candy in the lower mainland, when all the car shows just started up etc.

He was suppose to represent the import scene and the import enthusiast lifestyle through a interview with CBC. Basically improve our reputation. He was promised it would help "understand" the scene a bit more. It was so hyped up by RevScene and everyone went home to watch it the night of....after that...all history. He got screwed over, and RevScene jumped on the bandwagon and raped him as well. He didnt even get a chance to explain. Graham even called CBC to solve it professionally and told them that "he was grossly misrepresented." They bascially said, "we think otherwise."

Check the front page of Revscene homepage. Hes the first gallery. Thats how long ago it was.

originalhypa · 12-10-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 1983 Z28

Hm.

Some of the posts in this thread just scream hypocracy.

In some cases, yes.
But for the most part, times have changed. I had a late 90's Cobra pull up next to me at the light the other day in Langley, near #10 and Fraser highway. Back in the day, I would have hit the launch control, spooled that shit and wasted the domestic piece, but not anymore. I don't want Herr Harper taking my car, nor do I want some confused dumbshit pulling out in front of me without realizing that I'm doing 125kmh.

Times have changed.
Take it to the track, or some closed off industrial area.

As for these guys, I respect that they choose to race in an area that isn't populated. It's a lot better than hat racing down Kingsway.

AzNightmare · 12-10-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 1983 Z28

Hm.

Some of the posts in this thread just scream hypocracy.

LOL. There's a TON of hypocracy in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Tillerz

all in all, most people have sped or raced in their lives, im sure most of us here can think of a time we have done so, its common place in a car club, even when groundrules are set by sites such as this that there is zero tolerance.

saw an r8 the other day, what did he do, gunned it off a light and did above the speed limit, but not sure how much over.

ppl dont buy done up cars, exotics and never screw around in them.

you buy a nice car, you put that much money into it, and dont tell me you never take it over 50km/h in the city.

i've been to my fair shares of shows, and you see ppl, burning out, reving high, ripping it as they leave the show etc etc.

if cops wanted to stop street racing.. why make cars that exceed our fastest speeds of 100km/h on the highway, why no chip that limits us, why an engine with that much power potential, why supporting mods to boost performance.

and even with that.. i garuntee that many ppl take out that chip so they can surpass the limit.

and i am pretty sure when people build aftermarket products for cars, they arent thinking for "offroad use only" although, yes they do state that, they know people will use it on the streets as well.

in the end, its not preventable, they are able to crack down, yes, but you have to realize that it happens all around us, hell most of you know someone who rips it around.

im not defending what was done in that video, nor saying im against it, im just saying if they wanted to stop racing for good, we wouldnt be as advanced in the car world as we are today.

Agree with everything you said. Freddy's mistake was his entire mindset. While MOST of us at some point have done street racing/speeding/traffic light dashing, etc, and maybe still do so from time to time, NONE of us are stupid enough to admit to it to open public. Why? Because we know it's not something the public will praise about, it's not legal, the cops will come after you.

Freddy's mistake was his mindset, in thinking that stuff is OKAY, and is perfectly legal, as long as the streets are blocked off (just like in Fast and Furious), as long as no innocent civilians are involved, and as long as they are only endangering themselves. This is why he openly admitted he street raced without thinking (or maybe even knowing) it's actually against the law.

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Originally Posted by Evolutionian

sorry whats the story behind the pic?

I wonder too. I saw this pic back in 2004 in the model/car gallery from the RS main page.

enginedemon · 12-10-2008, 09:39 AM

seems some are saying it was freddy do'n 240 but in the cbc story he said it wasn't him. the cbc showed a guy named corbin who's got the same car.
hmmmm ... the thing is he was driving AND shooting video at the same time.
which one of those guys is dumb enough to try that?

1983 Z28 · 12-10-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by originalhypa

In some cases, yes.
But for the most part, times have changed. I had a late 90's Cobra pull up next to me at the light the other day in Langley, near #10 and Fraser highway. Back in the day, I would have hit the launch control, spooled that shit and wasted the domestic piece, but not anymore. I don't want Herr Harper taking my car, nor do I want some confused dumbshit pulling out in front of me without realizing that I'm doing 125kmh.

Times have changed.
Take it to the track, or some closed off industrial area.

As for these guys, I respect that they choose to race in an area that isn't populated. It's a lot better than hat racing down Kingsway.

Repeat this situation, but you've pulled up against a brand new M3, and you're on Highway 17 southbound at Highway 10. It's 2 am. There's not a car in sight, and there's 10 kilometers of perfectly paved, dead straight highway bordered by conveniently wildlife-stopping irrigation ditches ahead of you. Whaddya do?

SumAznGuy · 12-10-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by enginedemon

seems some are saying it was freddy do'n 240 but in the cbc story he said it wasn't him. the cbc showed a guy named corbin who's got the same car.
hmmmm ... the thing is he was driving AND shooting video at the same time.
which one of those guys is dumb enough to try that?

Corbin (owner of silver S200) was the guy that was doing 240 km/h and racing the white MS3.
Freddy is the founder of Vancouver TS, the group that supposed invited Corbin to a race meet. Freddy was also the fucktard that admitted on the interview that they would find a road and block it off to race.

SumAznGuy · 12-10-2008, 11:29 AM

We must have hit a nerve or something because the Vancouver TS group on facebook is gone, Corbin's myspace page is gone too.

Now who do I stalk? Happybrowndog?

Noir · 12-10-2008, 11:31 AM

For some reason, I find less douchebaggery in 240 kph in an open highway late at night as opposed to weaving in and out of traffic in heavily urban areas going 70-80 kph where the distance between traffic lights are just a matter of metres.

The funny thing is, the latter is everyone at one point in their lives or another. The more funnier thing is, the former is also everyone, at one point in their lives or another (well not 240kph, but as fast as your childhood cars could take you).

welfare · 12-10-2008, 11:44 AM

the media is nothing more than a tool used by higher powers like law enforcement to condition the masses to a very select school of thought. it's been this way ever since it's conception. it has no bearing on what is actually going on around you. to control the media, is to manipulate people's perception on any given subject. this is it's sole purpose, not informative, factual information. it's extremely powerful and all controlled by only a few corporations world wide. because of this, real stories about important issues are never cast unless it is to their advantage. i mean, innocent men, women and children are dying all around us but that gets swept under the rug because this is what they feel we should think is important. stop watching the news. stop allowing your brains to be poisoned

Mugen EvOlutioN · 12-10-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by !SG

could have been worse, if he crashed, we would all be handing our asses to the law enforcement as the beef against modded cars

it that was the case that would be fucking lame

the car is fucking stock, not even modified.

pfff.

modified car, or stockies can all do 240km easily now a days..

whether u have a family CAmery, or a G35, TL, subie, A4, 330

any cars can do 240km, so it really has nothing to do with the import scene

Mugen EvOlutioN · 12-10-2008, 12:41 PM

2nd of all if they wonna target ppl by the shit ppl load up on youtube, for christ sake...go fucking serach on youtube. u find a million street racing strete fucking street speeding or watever the fuck u wonna call it. Are every single one of them gonna get arrested? not gonna happen.

I think the media is making a big fuss about it, woooo we found one local idiot that loaded it up on youtube, quickly lets ignore all the other 99999999 street racing these idiots upload but target this one....
wow.

but no question about it, the fucking douche bag fucked it up by street racing against the MS3, the MS3 cant drive shit, stock for stock ms3 is much faster. who the fuck goes that fast on a rainy day...oh well

another youngster who thinks they can drive...fast

what else is new

AzNightmare · 12-10-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN

it that was the case that would be fucking lame

the car is fucking stock, not even modified.

pfff.

modified car, or stockies can all do 240km easily now a days..

weather u have a family CAmery, or a G35, TL, subie, A4, 330

any cars can do 240km, so it really has nothing to do with the import scene

Well not really. Many cars get capped at lower speeds. But we get your point.

Mugen EvOlutioN · 12-10-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GSP

"If we were going to street race" ...haha...oh man.
Freddy,
If you were around long enough, you would have learned from history:

whats the story with this pic? this teg, and this chick??

jpoon · 12-10-2008, 12:45 PM

putting a bad name to everyone on RS. and other boards around vancity.

Mugen EvOlutioN · 12-10-2008, 01:07 PM

so that chick was the owner of the teg which she produced bad names for import scene? wat she do? by showing too much skin? lol

AznK · 12-10-2008, 01:12 PM

way to fuck it up for all of us
asshole

I hope the driver does 240km into a wall

Glove · 12-10-2008, 01:18 PM

ya we have all spead in our lives,

but did you see the way that retard did the vin diesel pose? and said they block off streets and race,

what a fucking idiot, it wasnt even about the speeding or the racing, it was about the bragging, and his 10 seconds of fame.

and why did he open his hood and touch his hoses n shit?

because he wanted his 10 seconds, at the expense of the entire enthusiast community,

its all fucking fixed.

razy · 12-10-2008, 01:21 PM

the brown reporter kinda looks like suresh from heroes

AznK · 12-10-2008, 02:44 PM

^ you kinda look like lance bass

!SG · 12-10-2008, 03:21 PM

the ultimate worse, the tunnel being closed due to accident during morning traffic. that would be a nightmare, and the public would be all over "street racers"

No one denies going over the speed limit thru the tunnel.

but its one thing to compare say, doing 140km/h (worse case scenario) to 240km/h when the limit is what, 90km/h?

ive seen anything and everythind zoom up, and through the tunnel, but no one, NO ONE, is stupid enough to do 240km/h, and one step closer to stupidity by doing it, while filming, then putting it on youtube.

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Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN

it that was the case that would be fucking lame

the car is fucking stock, not even modified.

pfff.

modified car, or stockies can all do 240km easily now a days..

whether u have a family CAmery, or a G35, TL, subie, A4, 330

any cars can do 240km, so it really has nothing to do with the import scene

Noir · 12-10-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by !SG

but its one thing to compare say, doing 140km/h (worse case scenario) to 240km/h when the limit is what, 90km/h?

Yeah, but he only does 240 kph because he lucked out owning an S2K @ 19, whereas back in our time, majority of us, our first cars are like civics & corollas which only reach a max of 140-160 kph.

I'm pretty sure if we were all lucky enough to own such cars at such ages, we would've all done 240+ ourselves back then when were still young & dumb.

NSX · 12-10-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN

whats the story with this pic? this teg, and this chick??

^^This was YEARS ago, when street racing was a getting raped by the media. This was before/during all those VI's were being handed out like candy in the lower mainland, when all the car shows just started up etc.

He was suppose to represent the import scene and the import enthusiast lifestyle through a interview with CBC. Basically improve our reputation. He was promised it would help "understand" the scene a bit more. It was so hyped up by RevScene and everyone went home to watch it the night of....after that...all history. He got screwed over, and RevScene jumped on the bandwagon and raped him as well. He didnt even get a chance to explain. Graham even called CBC to solve it professionally and told them that "he was grossly misrepresented." They bascially said, "we think otherwise."

Check the front page of Revscene homepage. Hes the first gallery. Thats how long ago it was.

!SG · 12-10-2008, 04:44 PM

hellllll no...

i aint that stupid! but then, i valued i was able to buy my first car with my own money, though meant eating ketchup sandwiches to pay off the car loan and the mods.

if being young is equated to being dumb, how fucking young do you gotta be to be doing 240km/h?!

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Originally Posted by Noir

Yeah, but he only does 240 kph because he lucked out owning an S2K @ 19, whereas back in our time, majority of us, our first cars are like civics & corollas which only reach a max of 140-160 kph.

I'm pretty sure if we were all lucky enough to own such cars at such ages, we would've all done 240+ ourselves back then when were still young & dumb.

!SG · 12-10-2008, 04:47 PM

RS was divided on it. Ones that supported hit cause, ones that bashed him.

If RS was so against graham, why was him and his car featured in a photoshoot, at a car show at the RS booth, in the RS calendar??

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Originally Posted by GSP

^^This was YEARS ago, when street racing was a getting raped by the media. This was before/during all those VI's were being handed out like candy in the lower mainland, when all the car shows just started up etc.

He was suppose to represent the import scene and the import enthusiast lifestyle through a interview with CBC. Basically improve our reputation. He was promised it would help "understand" the scene a bit more. It was so hyped up by RevScene and everyone went home to watch it the night of....after that...all history. He got screwed over, and RevScene jumped on the bandwagon and raped him as well. He didnt even get a chance to explain. Graham even called CBC to solve it professionally and told them that "he was grossly misrepresented." They bascially said, "we think otherwise."

Check the front page of Revscene homepage. Hes the first gallery. Thats how long ago it was.