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Old 12-26-2008, 05:18 PM   #1
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UBC Math101 OR Math 105

Hey guys, well I just finished my first term math which was
Math 180 - Differential Calculus with Applications to Physical Sciences and Engineering

I'm registered for term 2 math but it's math 105 which is the Commerce version. I was just wondering if anyone knows if that version is easier than the engineering one.
(I know they are both equivalent in the end for credits)

So basically is Math 101 Easier or Math 105?

Math 101 - Integral Calculus with Applications to Physical Sciences and Engineering

Math 105 - Integral Calculus with Applications to Commerce and Social Sciences

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Math 105 is easier by far.
never take engineering math!
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Math 105 was easier than Math 104 for me LOL...although most of the time people find it the opposite. I suppose 105 would be easier.
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Even if it's easier, you're won't be learning how to apply it to problems you will encounter later on.

Learning how to find consumer surplus, maximizing multivariable production functions, and finding the optimal point to sell an investment probably isn't going to help as much.
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You don't learn those in 105 lol

The principals are the same, the names of the variables they plug in are different. 'Tis all.
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I found 101 ridiculously easy, and my friend found 105 really hard.
She said it was nothing like the highschool calculus and the word problems are very difficult.

101 was simple and concise.

If youre familiar with highschool calc, go with 101. But seeing that you took 180 probably means you didnt have highschool calc. So go with 105.

If you plan to take any higher level math courses, I would take 101 for sure, all the stuff carries through- right through Calc IV.
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I didn't take calculus in Highschool, thus taking Math 180. Barely made it through (60%) and I'm not planning to take any further Math courses, I just need it to fill my requirement for my program. I've looked at the average for Math 184 (Commerce one) and it was higher than Math 180 (Engineer) so I was just wondering if it is the same for 101/105 in which Commerce is easier.
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You don't learn those in 105 lol

The principals are the same, the names of the variables they plug in are different. 'Tis all.
Really? Hmmm, what kind of social science/commerce math are you doing?
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Not doing, did. I took 105 back in 2004 lol, but I didn't learn those things you mentioned. I learned them in other Commerce and Econ courses, go figure.
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Yea, what kind of applications did they show you? Continuous probabilities? Or did they just tell you integrals were for areas under a curve? You must have had some type of word problems.
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Yeah, very simple ones. I do remember one or two surplus calculations, but beyond that, it's been too long.
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105..and i know they scale lol
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Learning how to find consumer surplus, maximizing multivariable production functions, and finding the optimal point to sell an investment probably isn't going to help as much.

that would be econ, not math.

the courses are prob the same. take whichever is more inline with your studies i guess..
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Stick with 105. Math 180/100 and 101 is tough, which is why CSP is doing it. I took 180 last term as well and i'm doing 103 this term.

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that would be econ, not math.

the courses are prob the same. take whichever is more inline with your studies i guess..
The course title is "Integral Calculus with Applications to Commerce and Social Sciences ".

You learn the math...and then someone asks, what the hell do I need to know this for? And then they show you through applications, most of which are economics applications.
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Okay, to answer this question for others in the future (since it is no longer applicable to the OP), it really depends on your background.

If you have taken first year economics and enjoyed it, take 105.

If you have physics background take 101.

If you have neither, then take the course that is relevant to the calc 1 you took. Ie if you took 104 then take 105. If you took 100 than take 101. Since alot of the material from the first calc translate onto the second calc.

The applications of the math could be totally uninteresting to you which could affect your grade if you choose it based on what others say about the course (Since everyone has a different background).
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Why didn't anyone ask the OP what program he's in before making a recommendation? IIRC, some science programs don't accept 104/105 as equivalent.
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