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Jun_Y 12-29-2008 12:22 PM

factory mechanical lsd in my cressida FTW i have very little problems in the snow even if its a foot deep i'll make it.

SaviorSelf_666 12-29-2008 03:44 PM

kaaz 2-way...noisy lil guy, but works.

Volvo-brickster 12-30-2008 05:35 PM

RWD open diffs are great in the rain on a 96hp car :D

SumAznGuy 12-30-2008 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Volvo-brickster (Post 6198785)
RWD open diffs are great in the rain on a 96hp car :D

I saw a rusted out Volvo 240 try to drift the Broadway exit on Gallardi. He had fire coming out of the exhaust. Was that you? :eek:

Raid3n 12-31-2008 12:35 AM

^haha pimp

RabidRat 12-31-2008 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Raid3n (Post 6195904)
my car has a VLSD and i hate it... i liked the Clutch type LSD from the previous series a lot better.

haha at least your vlsd doesn't turn into an open diff like my torsen does on the ice :(

metal 12-31-2008 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6195768)
Another type of mechanical LSD is the clutch type LSD. These are adjsutable with plates and clutch discs, and I don't think any manufacturer uses them stock.

S4 RX7's had clutch LSDs :D

/misses em.

mmmmmic 12-31-2008 01:40 AM

OD button on your shifter does not mean "Open Diff on/off" ...

Raid3n 12-31-2008 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by metal (Post 6199487)
S4 RX7's had clutch LSDs :D

/misses em.

so do i.... VLSD isn't that great...

GabAlmighty 12-31-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6199247)
I saw a rusted out Volvo 240 try to drift the Broadway exit on Gallardi. He had fire coming out of the exhaust. Was that you? :eek:

That was me:)

SumAznGuy 12-31-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GabAlmighty (Post 6199844)
That was me:)

That scared the heck out of the misses, but looked cool to see fire coming out of the exhaust. :thumbsup:

Volvo-brickster 12-31-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GabAlmighty (Post 6199844)
That was me:)

Good for you ! :thumbsup:

I had a 1980 240...that thing was lousy yet so fun in the snow :haha:

GabAlmighty 01-01-2009 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6199912)
That scared the heck out of the misses, but looked cool to see fire coming out of the exhaust. :thumbsup:

haha, yup, except I had a side exit for a while under my gas tank opening and it lit my car on fire for a minute...

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Originally Posted by Volvo-brickster (Post 6200315)
Good for you ! :thumbsup:

I had a 1980 240...that thing was lousy yet so fun in the snow :haha:

I've got an 81 242 and a 82 245, my 245 is worlds biggest sleeper

Relyc 01-03-2009 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by !SG (Post 6195585)
beat me to it.
even worse when u have AWD, the wheel that spins free'est, gets all the useless power.

So what the hell is the point?

Elder_MMHS 01-03-2009 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Relyc (Post 6203397)
So what the hell is the point?

Of AWD? Distribute engine torque to as many contact points to minimize the chance of traction loss. Most newer AWD systems have a snow mode that locks the torque distribution to 50/50 front/rear.

!SG 01-03-2009 02:17 PM

if and when the tire isnt spinning, u get even power to all wheels (or whatever the computer distributes it as)

its when u break that initial coefficient of friction, that u lose that ability to spread even power.

but until then, its great for dead stop acceleration

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Originally Posted by Relyc (Post 6203397)
So what the hell is the point?


AzNightmare 01-03-2009 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by !SG (Post 6195585)
beat me to it.

basically all power goes to which ever wheel is easiest to move.

even worse when u have AWD, the wheel that spins free'est, gets all the useless power.

Does this apply for the STI as well? Or because it's a performance car, it has like fulltime AWD?

!SG 01-03-2009 02:58 PM

the STI has 3 differentials that are lockable no?

so with the push of u a button, the car can act fwd, rwd, awd. so with that said, a lockable differential is way better than an open differential.

it comes down to how much $$$ a manufactuer wants to put into their drive train. eg, ur paying for a premium for the STI, ur not paying for its high styling interior, ur paying for its legendary drive train. on my highlander (de-lux'd rx300) ur paying for value, so the drive train is good, but its not gonna win rally's or offroading comps or rock climbing, the 13,000 difference between the hihglander and the rx300 is for the interior, leather, luxury goodies, vsc...


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Originally Posted by AzNightmare (Post 6203976)
Does this apply for the STI as well? Or because it's a performance car, it has like fulltime AWD?


Relyc 01-07-2009 07:52 AM

I thought AWD systems were set up to send power to the other wheels when one starts slipping?

boibuddha 01-07-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Relyc (Post 6210668)
I thought AWD systems were set up to send power to the other wheels when one starts slipping?

For my Pathfinder, that is pretty much what happens.

When put into AUTO MODE, the truck is pretty much RWD until one of the wheels slip. Then, it switches to 4WD which quite noticeable by the dip in RPMs and a minute jerk which seems like a typical automatic gear shift.

Timpo 01-07-2009 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kungpow (Post 6195721)
I didn't know. Is that a standard with carmy's?

I suppose there's no way for me to turn off open-differential when I have one-wheel spinning out in the snow and the other one is on pavement eh?

I swear that is so useless in the snow.

yeah that's why you'll see differential-lock for SUVs. you can lock the differential for off roading.

kyo 01-07-2009 12:55 PM

exact same thing happened to my mazda protege 5 the other day when I was stuck near my house.

only one of my front wheel spins, i was worried at first.
i guess it's normal:) thank god.

//RacingSpirit>> 01-07-2009 06:56 PM

If you do get stuck in the snow with your non lsd car, try using your left foot to apply some brake force while you give it some gas..... the braking will slow down the spinning wheel; therefore, sending power to the wheel that's not moving. I don't really want to get into alot of details, but basically, apply a bit of brake while tapping the gas lightly is alot more effective than giving it alot of gas (like most motorist I see doing when they are stuck).

!e.lo_ 01-09-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by marc0lishuz (Post 6195845)
I have LSD and it's still useless in the snow! LOL Or maybe coz I'm lowered too much? Or I have all-seasons? K, fail on all counts.

i've got a vlsd in a nx2000, but i still get the occasional stuck.. but im going to blame that on the 10 yr old michelins haha!
i would think that because of the shit tires, the lsd is whats keeping me going thru snow/ice.


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