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Ludepower 01-07-2009 03:27 AM

WTF...how come this aint getting the same public outcry as the YVR tazer death? Is it because the victim is a young black kid?

Vansterdam 01-07-2009 06:39 AM

how can u not tell a real gun between a taser gun? i think its preety obvious

91civicZC 01-07-2009 08:08 AM

I love how people jump to RASIST right away. Somehow I’m guessing the cop is just a dip shit. He pulled a gun, maybe he thought it was a tazer, maybe hes just trigger happy, but it doesn’t look like anything racist. I’m guessing the kid was struggling a little as they were arresting him (you can see that in the video a little), and the guy stood back and had his weapon out while the other officer went to put the cuffs on him and secure him. Then Whoops! Cop should be tossed from the force, and charged with second degree (I belive that’s murder without intent), but I think screaming racism is a bit much.

Does that mean when a Chinese cop pulls me over in Vancouver I can say it was racist too? Same goes for the other video, That’s a black cop on a white looking dude, was that racist too?

If he jumped up and screamed “I hate black people, die!” then yeah, you have a case. Right now its just a case of a moron cop who shouldn’t have been anywhere near a gun.

411ken 01-07-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Vansterdam (Post 6210606)
how can u not tell a real gun between a taser gun? i think its preety obvious

I'm sure that's his "excuse" to try and save his ass...stupid cop man

hotjoint 01-07-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SharkBite (Post 6210011)
Time to riot.

:werd:

7seven 01-07-2009 08:21 AM

another angle [youtube]ZKKQ-gzc_Yw[/youtube]

NinjaAceYork 01-07-2009 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hotjoint (Post 6210693)
:werd:

:thumbsup:

daval 01-07-2009 08:43 AM

I think most police forces have to go through training again, how can there be so many of these cases where people got shot for minor reasoning? What are the police thinking at that point?

NSX 01-07-2009 10:17 AM

That is messed up. We need upadate soon.

Durrann1984 01-07-2009 11:46 AM

police abusing their powers

twixxer 01-07-2009 11:55 AM

police abusing their powers...police corruption...call it what you want its not that surprising imagine how you would abuse the power if you had it.

jeff19 01-07-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 91civicZC (Post 6210690)
I love how people jump to RASIST right away. Somehow I’m guessing the cop is just a dip shit. He pulled a gun, maybe he thought it was a tazer, maybe hes just trigger happy, but it doesn’t look like anything racist. I’m guessing the kid was struggling a little as they were arresting him (you can see that in the video a little), and the guy stood back and had his weapon out while the other officer went to put the cuffs on him and secure him. Then Whoops! Cop should be tossed from the force, and charged with second degree (I belive that’s murder without intent), but I think screaming racism is a bit much.

Does that mean when a Chinese cop pulls me over in Vancouver I can say it was racist too? Same goes for the other video, That’s a black cop on a white looking dude, was that racist too?

If he jumped up and screamed “I hate black people, die!” then yeah, you have a case. Right now its just a case of a moron cop who shouldn’t have been anywhere near a gun.

lol. i dont usually jump to racist conclusions, but there just dusnt seem to be any possible explanation to the whole thing. or maybe im just missing something. even if he mistook his gun for a taser, so what? he shouldn't have pulling out anything to begin with, and certainly not because of a bit of struggling on the ground...? -:confused: the other cop was already cuffing him, chances of the guy running away or doing something stupid was slim to none. and honestly i dont think cops would abuse their powers in front of a trainload of ppl....maybe the cop WAS too dumb to be anywhere near a weapon. in that case, he should stick to traffic duty. . . after he gets out of jail

411ken 01-07-2009 02:22 PM

He should definitely go to jail and I doubt he will make it out of there alive after those guys in there finds out what he did......

91civicZC 01-07-2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff19 (Post 6211128)
lol. i dont usually jump to racist conclusions, but there just dusnt seem to be any possible explanation to the whole thing. or maybe im just missing something. even if he mistook his gun for a taser, so what? he shouldn't have pulling out anything to begin with, and certainly not because of a bit of struggling on the ground...? -:confused: the other cop was already cuffing him, chances of the guy running away or doing something stupid was slim to none. and honestly i dont think cops would abuse their powers in front of a trainload of ppl....maybe the cop WAS too dumb to be anywhere near a weapon. in that case, he should stick to traffic duty. . . after he gets out of jail


I would bet he claims it was an accident. And I guessing it probably was. He still needs some jail time though.

Although I may disagree with a lot of the laws, and I think there are some real douche bag cops, but I also feel pretty sorry for them as the good ones get a bad rap. Every time someone makes a move, you have to wonder if you’re going to get shot. Some kid starts to struggle I would probably cover my fellow officers back by getting my gun out as well. It’s the states, who knows if the kid is armed or not. Its not like BC, or Canada in general. However, probably would have been best to check that safety first. But Cops in the states are MUCH more aggressive than RCMP or Cops here. Living in the states the cops always stressed me out. They are everywhere, and they make it perfectly clear that if you fuck with them, you are getting fucked with. No questions. Canadian Police and RCMP are so laid back in comparison its not even funny. I talk to cops here all the time, ask for directions or whatever. I NEVER talked to cops in the states unless absolutely necessary.

And just because it’s a bunch of black kids means nothing, In the states they have a much larger black population than us. It’s not like Van where you don’t see very many black people.

I just don’t see anything racist here. Stupid cop, yup. Racist, probably not. It just annoys the hell out of me when everyone jumps up and screams RACIST Against every white person that does something stupid or bad to a person of another race. It’s a two way street. I can’t count how many times a Chinese person, black person, or Mexican person has made a racial comment to me, and as a white guy I’m supposed to laugh it off.

Back on topic, Stupid move by the cop. Hope he goes to jail. Same with the Moron in the video below him (and it’s a black guy shooting a white guy, imagine that!). Both these guys need jail time. Of course, wouldn’t it be funny to find out the guy was going for a gun we can see……..

$_$ 01-07-2009 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91civicZC (Post 6210690)
I love how people jump to RASIST right away. Somehow I’m guessing the cop is just a dip shit. He pulled a gun, maybe he thought it was a tazer, maybe hes just trigger happy, but it doesn’t look like anything racist. I’m guessing the kid was struggling a little as they were arresting him (you can see that in the video a little), and the guy stood back and had his weapon out while the other officer went to put the cuffs on him and secure him. Then Whoops! Cop should be tossed from the force, and charged with second degree (I belive that’s murder without intent), but I think screaming racism is a bit much.

Does that mean when a Chinese cop pulls me over in Vancouver I can say it was racist too? Same goes for the other video, That’s a black cop on a white looking dude, was that racist too?

If he jumped up and screamed “I hate black people, die!” then yeah, you have a case. Right now its just a case of a moron cop who shouldn’t have been anywhere near a gun.

i love how you spell racist wrong :)

91civicZC 01-07-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by T.H.C (Post 6211675)
i love how you spell racist wrong :)

Its because Im white, lol.

Jason00S2000 01-07-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ludepower (Post 6210526)
WTF...how come this aint getting the same public outcry as the YVR tazer death? Is it because the victim is a young black kid?


I wish we were more like Greece, when he died, the police should have FEARED the people.


"To serve and protect" my ass.


We are pussies here in the west. At least in France, Greece, they know how to make the cops think twice about pulling that shit.

FeistyBearH22a 01-07-2009 07:20 PM

Power trip. It COULD have been an accidental misfire.

Being muscled by cops suck. I know they do it to subdue the person, but hell it hurts like a bitch. Even if you cooperate and follow their instructions it may appear as if you are struggling but getting your arm twisted like that hurts for most people.

El Bastardo 01-07-2009 07:32 PM

I don't think its a power trip, racism, or some sort of conscious action.

I honestly believe the cop was incompetent in the handling of his own weapon. What reason would he draw down with a GUN on someone who is in a prone position and acting generally complacent.

Hes an idiot who pulled out a gun when he had an array of other resolutions strapped to his belt. Hes an idiot who couldn't keep his finger off the trigger.



Just like that video also embedded in the thread with the woman cop shooting the guy in the head, hes not fit to be a police officer.

Jason00S2000 01-07-2009 08:22 PM

Anyone got that video in Europe where the cop catches the guy fleeing on a bike by knocking the bike over, gets out, helps him up, and doesn't even cuff him?


It's after a pretty long chase, too.


In North America:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVLT26CMzk4


Look at the brief arrest after 2:55... did they need to throw him on the ground?


Seriously...

El Bastardo 01-07-2009 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 6211905)
Look at the brief arrest after 2:55... did they need to throw him on the ground?

Seriously...



Yes

because he was going to molest a child

Jason00S2000 01-07-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Los Bastardo (Post 6211914)
Yes

because he was going to molest a child


What right does that give them to throw him on the ground?

iEatClams 01-08-2009 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 6211781)
I wish we were more like Greece, when he died, the police should have FEARED the people.


"To serve and protect" my ass.


We are pussies here in the west. At least in France, Greece, they know how to make the cops think twice about pulling that shit.

yup, like i said before earlier in the thread, if this was done in greece, riots would break out like crazy.

In this example, it's a clear video shot too, like the cops clearly a moron. In the last greece indicent, there was no clear evidence that the cop direcly shot the kid yet crazy riots started.


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