haha and obvious you're hastily coming to conclusions I just forgot to check this post for a while...

my stories quite long... I wouldn't say super interesting but the way we met and how we went out was not of a regular friend of friend, go out for bubble tea story. My gf doesn't like me spamming our encounter often so if you meet me in person i'll share it over a coffee =)

somebody also stated that besides wedding most gf/bf starts are pretty boring too... and I agree as I have been planning the proposal since our first year... its going to be awesome... once again coffee and i'll tell as this one by posting will most likely set myself up for a lot of random flaming especially with people's online nature to speak rudely...

Mature response, touché, although im sure you could sum it up in a paragraph.

haha i'll be more concise next time

"jumping thru hoops" aka chasing a girl is one of the best parts of the relationship

an attractive girl will not give in so easily b/c she has lotsa options

she will make you jump thru hoops to let her know that ur serious.

so LongDong do you just give up when u have to jump thru the first hoop?

No, that's what roofies were invented for.

For some girls a kiss means official, for some holding hands, for others it's sex. But then there are the girls who assume nothing. Unless the "what are we" talk had been had I'm no ones girlfriend. Though I do expect exclusive dating once we've starting dating.

I've also been called a "girlfriend" without my consent. It scared the crap out of me as it does for most guys too.

Honestly though the way a guy does it means nothing. It is all a matter of the WHO in that situation. If I really liked him a "will you be my girlfriend" would be the cutest thing ever. If I didn't like him and he really out did himself it would still be the lamest thing I'd ever been through.

From a girls persepctive.

there is courting and there is jumping through hoops. i'd do one but not the other. its a fine line between them though.

please give examples?

^examples are hard.

Being nice to a girl because you like her (courting) and then there's "I will do anything to get her to like me" attitude. The latter being jumping through hoops.

it'd be pretty funny if a guy bought a girl a flaming lambo. And ask her out to be his g/f as she's drinking it.

exactly. like courting would be thinking of a nice way to take a girl on a first date. jumping through hoops would be getting a reservation at the nicest resturaunt, ditching work/school to take her out cause its the only day she's 'free' even though she knows you are busy those days.

I dunno i guess its the difference between doing something because you want to and doing something because you feel like you have to. I usually give a little benifit of the doubt with a chick, cause maybe they are use to it from their last guy or just didnt think you'd care about something you care about. then after that the girl just isn't fun anymore. she's just a chore you're performing to get some pussy. like cleaning your room so you can go watch cartoons. fuck it. i dont want to watch tv that badly.

No, but I never have difficulties getting girls, I have no issue with being persistance but when girls make things needlessly long and cumbersome it's just a test.

If they need to test you and can't trust you implicitly you will have a problem.

Then again, I'm not the guy asking how to ask girls out...?

Ok I got a story for you guys! So I used to go to work everyday with a hole in my shorts near my crotch, she pointed it out that she could see my underwear and asked why I didnt sow it up. I asked her if she sowed, she said yes, and I asked her why she didnt sow it up for me. She agreed to sow it up, so I was like ok, im not workin that much anymore so here my # call me whens its done (to get her number without asking =D). So she calls me with a private number and im like fuck...that didnt work so I was like uhh i dont know if i can come pick it up tmr, call me back later. Next time private number calls i just let it ring forever, so she txts me (which gives me her #). I call her back later and shes like, howd u get my number? (i reply with something smart ass). Next day i pick up my shorts, i tell her i owe her anything she likes, she asks me if im hungry after shes done work, we eat, and the rest is history. I guess technically she asked me out HAHA, which was my intention.

HAHA I wanna try that :thumbsup:

What do you mean you usually give her the benifit fo the doubt? With regards to what?