^ actually, Hok, Ryan , Victor and Steve all auditioned for so you think you can dance... and i think they had a crew before called sickstep crew... then became quest crew.. both did a show during sytycd if i remember correctly... (they had 99999999 re-runs of that show on ch 24.. lol)

Because li'l momma will cry again.

Missed this episode. When this week are they replaying it again?

don't forget d-trix (dominic) was on sytycd as well, and i think he made it pretty far


all i gotta say is quest crew is pretty much gonna win this
no way any other crew gonna be as sick
gotta give props to beat freaks, being an all girl breakin group that can dance, just plain badass!!!
plus that shorty girl on beat freaks is pretty cute :haha:

ABDC is not rigged, its just that in the 1st and 2nd seasons they made a big deal about coast/regional rivalries and fans bought into it. So when it came down to three crews in season 1 (Jabba, Kaba, Status Quo), East coast voters went for SQ, and West coast voters split their votes between Jabba and Kaba, causing them each to have less votes than SQ.

It worked out the same in season 2 when So Real Cru from Houston was the only crew from the South and they were never in the bottom two, yet Super Cr3w from the West was in the bottom two several times since there was always more than one crew from the West on the show until the final showdown.

A final fact to note is that this show airs on MTV on Thursday nights, and voting opens after it airs on the East coast, and closes 6AM EST Friday morning. The show airs on a 3 hour time delay on the West coast. This results in West coast voters having 3 less hours to vote for their crews of choice since they can't vote blind without the right numbers to call / text in. So I guess in way, you can call this voting system "rigged", however I prefer to think of it as more of a technical blunder by the producers.

Quest FTMFW!! they're exciting to watch. took me back to the days of watching Jabba

ABCD IS rigged. I forgot where I read it but I remember one of the staff leaked out info on how it was rigged. No, it's not COMPLETELY controlled by MTV but they do skew things in their favor and makes sure the most marketable crews stay in and such.

What does JC and Lil Mama bring to the panel? Seriously.

JC as an ex BoyBand, i don't consider that anywhere near dance crew status. Rather why not a veteran street dance competition judge?

Lil Mama, she's just your female must have judge. Just so feminists don't bitch about it. Kinda like Paula Abdul and Mary Murphy. Though, those two have the long term background expertise to judge their shows. I don't think Lil Mama fits the profile. I think a dance/coreo instructor would fit better, like a Twyla Tharp of bboying haha

*finally watched episode 2 just now*

^what does the black guy bring? he always seems to say something positive lol.. but i do know that he is a judge at world hip hop championships :P

shane is a famous dance choreographer. he choreographed a lot of dances for like mtv music awards and movies and such. so he has the credibility.

JC NOPE.

Lil Mama...wow I thought she was old but turns out she's like 19 or something....HOW CAN THEY GET HER ON THE SHOW AND GIVE LIFE ADVICE TO PPL!?!

^ Thus why i'm okay with Shane, he's credible. :)

WTF SHES 19? Yo she looks like shes in her late 20's.... and who the fuck is lil mamma, ive never heard of her before this show... new ep tmr! (american time)

shane is the only judge on there with credibility
the others can leave, most of the time they're critiquing the crews on the wrong things

what JC and lil mama said about quest crew on the second episode is stupid

I thought JC was credited as well... if you read his bio !

Yeah but she talks like she's 14.

I wish they could've gotten someone more legit to judge this shit. Like how hard is it to get one of the Godfathers of the Rocksteady crew to judge a predominantly hip hop show?

Give Crazylegs, Ken Swift, or Mr. Wiggles the job IMO. And this is just a small example on who's available that's 10x more legit than Li'l mama or JC.

I would love to see Mr.Wiggles on the show!!

I believe Lil mama was born in 1989. It really bugs me that she's telling dancers about life and about growing when she's hasn't grown herself.

^ WTF? She's even younger than me?

I could've sworn that she was at least mid-20s

Now she has to be booted off =o=;;

should have just left kid reinen on as a judge and tell JC to take a hike

you guys are all hatin' on JC just cuz he was a boy band member. he's actually not a bad judge. he actually has something to SAY, unlike l'il mama.

shane of course, is clearly the best.

just like nigel is >>>>>>> * on sytycd

and jean-marc is ... slightly better ... than the rest on sytycd canada. i can't stand tre.

dominic was my favorite dancer on all sytycd shows ... quest had BETTER WIN. damn rigged show!

they could bring on someone like noir suggested, but chances are, they wouldn't be known to the rest of america, the demographic that actually watches the show. they need people that are familiar to young, impressionable, teenage girls. that and lil mama is the voice of young people. respect yo.
http://musicremedy.com/webfiles/arti...ama-03-big.jpg

Ugh! I groan at the fact that there's a lot of truth behind this statement :(

^ Then bring in the person who choreographed High School Musical 1, 2, 3

= = Seriously, that's no excuse. I'm sure people who actually vote during SYTYCD a good 50% of them have never heard of the judges before the show.

the thing about lil mama is she sackrides whoever is from whereever the fuck she is from
did it in the first season, doin it again in the 3rd

there are plenty of godly dancers and instructors out there that can give way better feedback

youre comparing apples and oranges. not to say that people who watch sytycd dont watch abdc, but we can at least assume, for the most part, that the target demographic for sytycd is a little more sophisticated with their taste in television. sytycd is actually about dancing, all forms of it; whereas abdc is strictly entertainment, as evidenced by the removal of the last crew in episode two. ultimately, it was up to the judges, but it was the viewers that voted the more gimmicky crews above one of the better actual dance crews. that alone tells you something about the voters who watch abdc. teenage girls dont recognize people behind the scenes. they need someone who they see on their cd cases. i wouldnt be surprised if the lack of votes for the boxcuttahs were because all the kids were swayed by lil mama's opinion. of course, im being largely subjective. maybe you agree with the outcome and think fly khicks are gunna win it all!

edit: have you seen the choreographer for high school musical? do you honestly think he would suit the show? maybe if he guest starred as JC's dad.

Just watched this week's episode, the Britney Spears challenge. In regards to the elimination, words cannot express the emotions I'm feeling right now. It's like I'm sitting in calculus lecture again, fuming angry because I simply cannot comprehend what I'm seeing.

The two crews in the bottom this week are:


The eliminated crew is:

i haven't seen any episodes from this season..i guess i'm not into it that much anymore lol. how is it doign with ratings anyway?