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604_Marc 01-23-2009 01:43 PM

Adobe Photoshop Classes
 
Looking into taking courses for Adobe Photoshop CS3.. Do you guys have any suggestions to where would be a good place to go to?

Mainly interested with editing photos I take with my SLR. I know the basics already so am looking for something not for beginners.. thanks

niforpix 01-23-2009 01:55 PM

I took PS Level 1 at Langara in Vancouver. I just started Level 2 last Saturday. The teacher is awesome.

Can you do some major edits and touch ups already? I was amazed what I could do after taking PS L1. If you're pretty good already, you'll have to talk to the program director (I think) and get his OK to go straight to Level 2.

604_Marc 01-23-2009 02:02 PM

i wouldn't consider myself good but i do know some basics.. i'll look into that Langara college course, how much does it cost if you don't mind? How is the schedule and how long?

niforpix 01-23-2009 02:09 PM

Look at this link (my photos): http://www.flickr.com/photos/niforpix

If you can do edits like that (I'm not saying I'm a pro), then you should be able to go straight to level 2.

Level 1 cost me around $450. I'm taking my courses part time. So it's 3 hours per class, and 12 classes per semester. So you learn quite a bit :)

604_Marc 01-23-2009 02:11 PM

damn I don't know how long it took you to remove those power lines but that is sweet..

did you use healing brush?

great job!!! looks like something i should be learning first =)

niforpix 01-23-2009 02:16 PM

About 3 hours :D

I used a few tools. Healing brush, clone stamp tool, patch tool, etc. Key is to play around with opacities of those tools as well.

Thanks! That's the kind of stuff you'll learn in level 1. I knew how to use photoshop a little bit before I took the course, just from playing around on my own, but man, after level 1... it's like another world :) And level 1 is maybe like 5-10% of what you can do with photoshop? :)

Mananetwork 01-23-2009 02:57 PM

450$ for just a starter photoshop class.. jeez

I should teach photoshop! :jiggy:

niforpix 01-23-2009 03:11 PM

$450 / 36 hours = $12.50 per hour... I'd say that's pretty cheap...

Mananetwork 01-23-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by niforpix (Post 6241589)
$450 / 36 hours = $12.50 per hour... I'd say that's pretty cheap...

Let me guess, he takes 1hour and half to introduce everyone to a new tool and spend the other 1hour and half walking around answering questions and helping everyone out. If so, I think the classes are way to spread out

Senna4ever 01-23-2009 04:02 PM

Or Focal Point.

http://www.focalpoint.bc.ca/ptdigitalimaging.htm

Matsuda 01-23-2009 04:21 PM

I remember taking a photoshop level 2 class at bcit, some of the students didn't even know their way around windows or a pc. /facepalm

Denny 01-23-2009 05:03 PM

Photoshop is easy to use and most people don't need to go to Photoshop classes. It's about as easy as taking a beginner Photography class except not as fun.

The fastest way to learn the basics is through lynda.com. Go to www.lynda.com/IDsecrets/ for a free 7 day trial.

I went through several training courses through lynda.com and learned several programs very fast. Compared to the training I got at the Art Institute of Vancouver, lynda.com teaches you faster, more accurate (no missing topics), and way cheaper. If I could go back in time, I would learn through lynda.com and challenge those courses at AI to save money and complete the program faster. The only downside is that you're learning by yourself and, depending on how attentive you are, you may give up before you finish a course.

You can also learn Photoshop by retouching your own photos. That is how I learnt Photoshop.

niforpix 01-23-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mananetwork (Post 6241644)
Let me guess, he takes 1hour and half to introduce everyone to a new tool and spend the other 1hour and half walking around answering questions and helping everyone out. If so, I think the classes are way to spread out

Actually, first half hour, the instructor shows us how to lets say touch up a photo, then he gets us to do it using a different image. So we get a lot of class time to ask him questions if we get lost, etc. And no, it's not just one tool in an hour and a half... if that were the case, I would not be taking level 2 Photoshop... The classes are intense and there is a lot to learn in 3 hours. I just choose to actually spend my free time and practice it at home, just like you would go out and practice your photography...

Everyone has their own method of learning. I prefer to have a human being teach me rather than do it online.

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Originally Posted by Denny
Photoshop is easy to use and most people don't need to go to Photoshop classes. It's about as easy as taking a beginner Photography class except not as fun.

You can also learn Photoshop by retouching your own photos. That is how I learnt Photoshop.

Maybe it's not as fun for you, but it's a lot of fun for me. I almost prefer it to taking photos. So how much Photoshop do you actually know if you say it's that easy? You know it inside out just by using lynda.com for the 7 day trial period? lol

Senna4ever 01-23-2009 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny (Post 6241779)
Photoshop is easy to use and most people don't need to go to Photoshop classes. It's about as easy as taking a beginner Photography class except not as fun.

The fastest way to learn the basics is through lynda.com. Go to www.lynda.com/IDsecrets/ for a free 7 day trial.

I went through several training courses through lynda.com and learned several programs very fast. Compared to the training I got at the Art Institute of Vancouver, lynda.com teaches you faster, more accurate (no missing topics), and way cheaper. If I could go back in time, I would learn through lynda.com and challenge those courses at AI to save money and complete the program faster. The only downside is that you're learning by yourself and, depending on how attentive you are, you may give up before you finish a course.

You can also learn Photoshop by retouching your own photos. That is how I learnt Photoshop.

I say bullshit. If you say Photoshop is easy, then you have only a basic understanding of Photoshop. True, it gets easier with experience, but how efficient are you? AI doesn't teach Photoshop for photographers. They teach Photoshop for graphic artists. There is a HUGE difference!

Matsuda 01-24-2009 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6242372)
I say bullshit. If you say Photoshop is easy, then you have only a basic understanding of Photoshop. True, it gets easier with experience, but how efficient are you? AI doesn't teach Photoshop for photographers. They teach Photoshop for graphic artists. There is a HUGE difference!

I agree with this, I've always used Photoshop as a graphic design tool and hardly for photo editing. go figure. Now that I'm getting into photography, using photoshop is quite different for me.

Denny 01-24-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by niforpix (Post 6242151)
Maybe it's not as fun for you, but it's a lot of fun for me. I almost prefer it to taking photos. So how much Photoshop do you actually know if you say it's that easy? You know it inside out just by using lynda.com for the 7 day trial period? lol

I guess which one is more fun is subjective.

I've been using Photoshop since version 5.5. Compared to learning other computer software, Photoshop is one of the easier ones.

If you use lynda.com full time (8 hours/day), you can go from beginner to someone who can do most retouching tasks in less than two weeks. You can learn the basics in a few days at an easy pace. And for $25/month or about $300/year with project files, you'll be saving a lot of money.

Have a look at the courses here:
CS4: http://movielibrary.lynda.com/html/m...ng.asp?pid=391
CS3: http://movielibrary.lynda.com/html/m...ng.asp?pid=228

If you take all the Photoshop CS4 and some of the CS3 courses on lynda.com, you'll be better at retouching than most people. I also recommend learning color theory but not the one from lynda.com.

Totaltraining.com is another online video training source. I reviewed their products a few years ago and they're really professional quality but I don't know how they are now.


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