I'm going to take a stab and say these girls want 2 things... hot dude, and rich dude. You are neither, you have basically no shot in hell.

That would be like some ugly, fat ass, geek girl trying to get with the hot school jock... it's just not going to happen. The jock can find a hot, skinny ckick to play with... Just like the "hottest of hot" chicks can find brad pitt, rich bastard, equivilants to play with.

I'd like to believe what you're saying is sincere its just there's many instances when I see god awful looking scrubs with chicks that rival in terms of beautifulness to the goddess Athena. I'm not saying this is the status quo but some of these dudes look like they just came off from a shift from burger king and you don't have to be a genius to realize they don't have a lot of money when they're rockin denver hayes jeans and the average $10 T from wal mart. It just makes me wonder...
Go figure eh?

you def do not need to have a lot of money to pull a girl like that. you just gotta (1)know what you are doing. when you walk up to her and everything you do just screams rookie/newb then obviously you wont get the time of day. (2) be unimpressed. realistically, the only thing that separates those girls from other ones are some expensive clothes and alot of make up. strip em naked and put them next to another chick and suddenly its not so impressive anymore. keep that in mind. (3) just be a man. lots of guys with lots of money are obsessed with clothes and fashion and other girly shit. act butch and some primma donna that is tired of prissy tight assed guys will start to think you're looking pretty hot.

i mean, all that is easier said then done, im just saying its not impossible.

Yeah i find hotter girls easier to play around with since they're more insecure about their looks etc. You can easily get their attention by throwing a little backhanded compliment their way or ignoring them, blocking her out and talking to her friends etc. That being said, the bitch shield IS a bitch to get past.

a couple things i've tried are:

Pretend shes an ugly girl. Tell yourself looks don't matter. If you can lie to yourself about this it'll make you seem less/not interested in her. Which usually brings the shield down.

just touch them
what's wrong not touching them?
werido

^ cause thats called sexually assault lol

speaking of old school britney, this one's my all time fave
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...oneMag2003.jpg

all girls, even the hottest ones, are insecure or at least self-conscious. some just hide it very well. they are just as flawed as you, but i'm sure you knew that :thumbsup:

I dont know. I just be myself with everyone. I talk to hot chicks the same way I would talk to any other girl. Hell I'll talk to them the same way I talk to my buddies most of the time.
Also dont be a slobbering drunken idiot.

but talking to guys is diffferent from talking to girls

aint it??

i know the attitude of not giving a shit about their looks...is a great mind set
but talking to guys and talking to chicks (especially hot chicks) u need a different approach i find.. (in order to attract the girls that is , not be placed in their friend zone)

all about your game, nothing else matters

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoid=33246607

Oh ya, shes fine:
http://www.adam-amy.com/blog/media/1...ld-britney.jpg
And as for miley, if you like barely 16 YEAR OLD GIRLS (especially ugly ones like her, not the ones that look like they are 20), then you are fubar and belong in jail.

(ok, old school brittney is OK, but still not as hot as some other chicks.

EDIT: Re-reading youre post, wtf, you think shes a freak in the sack? shes probably still a virgin... man, wtf dude...just wtf? you want to score on the hottest girls at a club, and then talk about getting together with miley rae cyrus...wtf?

(boy + girl) we are not serious to each other
why bother

talk down to them, act like their no better then any other girl in the club, get a lil cocky, slightly make fun of them every now and then...go tell her shes comming dancing with you (dont ask her to dance...tell her shes comming) grab the bitches hand, take her out there, dance, get close, 2nd song in just go for the fuckin kiss. get her number, then ditch her for the rest of the night. call her the next day, go hang out, if you think shes cool, keep in contact and go from there.

try it.

Dude, slow your roll before you get a gosh darn heart attack. Be real and think to yourself, would I ever get the opportunity to sexxors Miley Cyrus. Take a long hard ponder and ask yourself maybe I was exaggerating a bit. What I said was the miley cyrus types. Hell, how is me finding miley cyrus bangin any different than 99% of the asian jailbaits fanboys here drooling over prebuscent twangers who look even younger than Miley. At least Miley looks like she could pass as 20 or so. The twangers would all be carded if they were to go into a liquor store to buy alcohol, assuming they were above the legal age limit. I doubt Miley is a virgin.

Vmec is still right.

It's either they have lots of money but just no style or they're a "somebody" of some sort.

or they have amazing personalities and know how to talk to women...i know tons of friends who i would rank no more then a 5/10 yet they party with some of the cutest girls i see.

i dated an 8.5, she was dumber that a 8 and a half year old.

i'd like to befriend ur friends lol

IMO I find alot of hot girls to be dumb because they use their looks to get what they want. Ugly girls have to work way harder. I know a few hot girls that are very successful but that's rare. Girls just know that we're weak when it comes to whats in between their legs :cry:

facebook that shit up. they say you can never have too many friends.

i gotta agreee, best way 2 meet chicks.. and then when ur at the club, ( if they are intrested) they go like "OMGG ur that dude that knows her and added me.. hows it goin?" <---- in a perfect world :cry:

dont waste your time

lol dont waste time on what?

Yeah but wouldn't you rather try and fail instead of staying in your comfort zone and thinking its not worth it? Its not a waste of time if you somehow manage to get the chick.. Hey, weirder things have happened ;)