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niforpix 03-01-2009 08:08 PM

Looking for wider lens - need your opinion
 
Hey guys,

So I've got the 24-105mm F4 L IS lens, and so far it's been really good with great image quality, but... I find that sometimes it's not wide enough and I don't always carry my 10-22mm with me... so I was thinking of getting the 17-40mm F4 L, or maybe even trading my 24-105 for 17-40... What do you guys think? I'd be loosing a bit of zoom + the image stabilizer, but I'd be getting a wider lens. Is there another "better" option for me? Any other L series lenses you guys would recommend?

Thanks! :)

!MiKrofT 03-01-2009 08:12 PM

Oooh I wish I had a 24-105 L lens :D

77civic1200 03-01-2009 10:53 PM

Ooooooor you could stop being such a girl and start taking you 10-22mm out with you? I mean you bought it, why not use it? Buying new glass won't make you any better, going out and shooting will.

niforpix 03-01-2009 11:00 PM

Thanks Kyle... thanks for your useless comment!! ;) j/k
You do make a good point though... I guess I could do that. I'm just saying there are occasions where I don't always can bring more than one lens, or don't always have time to swap the lenses and that moment for a great shot is gone cuz I didn't have wide enough lens. Ya know?

Tim Budong 03-01-2009 11:05 PM

it does look like the 17-40L is a good choice..if not..the 17-55mm f2.8
its VERY similar to the 24-70L
its sharp!

niforpix 03-01-2009 11:19 PM

Hmm... 17-55mm f2.8 could be a good choice, but I'm not sure if I want to get it just because if I ever upgrade to a full frame, I won't be able to use it. Just like my 10-22mm... but that's not gonna happen any time soon...

J____ 03-01-2009 11:23 PM

17-40L is as good as it gets, but depending on what you use it for. if low light go with the 16-35L

planning on picking up this set:
16-35L F2.8
24-70L F2.8
70-200L F2.8

77civic1200 03-01-2009 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niforpix (Post 6307784)
Thanks Kyle... thanks for your useless comment!! ;) j/k
You do make a good point though... I guess I could do that. I'm just saying there are occasions where I don't always can bring more than one lens, or don't always have time to swap the lenses and that moment for a great shot is gone cuz I didn't have wide enough lens. Ya know?

Suuure, but the same thing can happen if you had a 17-40 mounted and needed a longer shot. Thats one of the downsides of DSLR's, but if you want better image quality than a p&s you make do. If you really want a do it all lens, why not one of the 18-200 range lenses out there? I really think you need to just stop lusting for new gear, you have similar or even better lenses than I do, its not holding you back

Senna4ever 03-02-2009 12:10 AM

On a high pixel density sensor like a 50D, the 17-55 F2.8 is better than the 17-40 L for sure.

niforpix 03-02-2009 08:45 AM

The 18-200 is not a bad idea, but then I'm giving up the L glass (if I were to trade for someone for it for example). But I think I'll stick with my setup for now and just try to bring my 10-22 with me more often... And you make a good point about not having enough zoom if it was a longer shot.

keitaro 03-02-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6307917)
On a high pixel density sensor like a 50D, the 17-55 F2.8 is better than the 17-40 L for sure.

high pixel density? you mean Mega pixels?

niforpix 03-02-2009 03:37 PM

I think he means 1.6x crop like my XTi I'm using.

Tim Budong 03-02-2009 04:12 PM

im deciding if its neccesary to get a true wide angle...
the 10-22 or the tokina 11-16

my fish eye is like my camera toy..its sooo fun ><

77civic1200 03-02-2009 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keitaro (Post 6308669)
high pixel density? you mean Mega pixels?

No
Quote:

Originally Posted by niforpix (Post 6308680)
I think he means 1.6x crop like my XTi I'm using.

No

He means pixel DENSITY, exactly what it sounds like, the 50D has more pixels on the same size sensor as the 30D,40D ect. Therefor the pixel density is higher. Megapixels just means how many pixels there are, not how many on a given size.

HyperREV 03-02-2009 04:46 PM

the 10-22 weighs nothing! if you're shooting with an aps-c cam and have a 10-22 and 24-105L theres pretty much NO reason to switch! maybe grab a fast prime or two instead?

niforpix 03-02-2009 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77civic1200 (Post 6308749)
He means pixel DENSITY, exactly what it sounds like, the 50D has more pixels on the same size sensor as the 30D,40D ect. Therefor the pixel density is higher. Megapixels just means how many pixels there are, not how many on a given size.

Aaahhhh.... I get it now...

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperREV
the 10-22 weighs nothing! if you're shooting with an aps-c cam and have a 10-22 and 24-105L theres pretty much NO reason to switch! maybe grab a fast prime or two instead?

I think you're right. I may just stick with this setup and just bring my 10-22 with me "just in case".

Senna4ever 03-02-2009 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keitaro (Post 6308669)
high pixel density? you mean Mega pixels?

No, high pixel density means just that: high pixel density. It means you have more pixels is a given area on the sensor compared to a full-frame sensor. If you had a FF sensor with the same pixel density as the 50D sensor, you'd have a 40-45MP sensor.

niforpix 03-02-2009 09:32 PM

^^ and that would be pimp! And expensive... lol

HyperREV 03-03-2009 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niforpix (Post 6309322)
^^ and that would be pimp! And expensive... lol

... and noisey ;)

keitaro 03-03-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6309289)
No, high pixel density means just that: high pixel density. It means you have more pixels is a given area on the sensor compared to a full-frame sensor. If you had a FF sensor with the same pixel density as the 50D sensor, you'd have a 40-45MP sensor.

oh that makes sense now.. thanks! :thumbsup:

keitaro 03-03-2009 03:39 PM

opps double post :(


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