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JSALES 03-08-2009 05:34 PM

haha i read this in the newspaper, pretty fucken hilarious

SumAznGuy 03-08-2009 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Corey Darling (Post 6319113)
This is a case of both sides failing to budge on their principals.

Please tell us you are partially retarded. That is the only explaination to your post.

That US border guard is in a position of authority. There is no failing to budge on the border guard's principle. When they ask you to jump, the only thing you can say is "how high?"

If you get pulled over by the police, are you going to ask the police officer to say please when they ask you for your drivers liscence and registration?

Corey Darling 03-08-2009 06:05 PM

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Rich Sandor 03-08-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 6318772)
The guard did not need to say please. It is not part of the job description. It is, however, a part of crossing the boarder that you abide by what the boarder guards tell you to do.

Simple as that. The driver was clearly at fault. Anyone that says anything different is an IDIOT.

+1.

GLOW 03-08-2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRS (Post 6318772)
The guard did not need to say please. It is not part of the job description. It is, however, a part of crossing the boarder that you abide by what the boarder guards tell you to do.

Simple as that. The driver was clearly at fault. Anyone that says anything different is an IDIOT.

+1

never argue with a man carrying a gun :)

InvisibleSoul 03-08-2009 08:37 PM

Idiot request, or power tripping border guard?

I say a little from column A, a little from column B.

murd0c 03-08-2009 08:43 PM

I so hope this is going to be on that boarder guard show. The would be awesome!!

Leopold Stotch 03-09-2009 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul (Post 6319423)
Idiot request, or power tripping border guard?

I say a little from column A, a little from column B.

i would say moreso in column A.
he was told three times and warned.
the idiot was just being stubborn thinking he could get away with it.
He's an idiot, hope he learned his lesson


which leads me to a story

i was crossing the border and was worried because i've never done it without my parents, i was with 3 friends. The border guard asked me how we knew each other and what our plans were. I told him we were all highschool friends and we plan to take the summer off and go to university in the fall.
He had meant for the day.

lol the guard laughed pretty hard after. Only time i ever saw a border guard lose composure.

Noir 03-09-2009 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey Darling (Post 6319173)
What I am saying is that once you look past that, to what could have topped this in the first place, its just a matter of principal. The guy didn't want to be pushed around by the guard who refused to say please - which would have fixed this problem once it started.

Sure he can do that. But why would the border guards want to look soft? Why would they want to give the implication that their authority is questionable? Do you think they're pushovers?

Refusing to shut off the engine upon request is already grounds for suspicious behavior. For all the border guard's guess, Mr. Fortunato could be one of those stupid enough to try and make a run for it for reasons of his own :rolleyes:

quasi 03-09-2009 08:31 AM

Whats dumb is he owns a home in Blaine. Have fun going to your vacation home or whatever the hell it is because they are going to make his life hell every single time he crosses for now on.

InvisibleSoul 03-09-2009 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cakeTech (Post 6319860)
i would say moreso in column A.
he was told three times and warned.
the idiot was just being stubborn thinking he could get away with it.
He's an idiot, hope he learned his lesson

Perhaps... but the border guard could still have handled it without going straight for a physical response. Obviously, this must have escalated extremely quickly... but if border guard was just a little bit more restrained, he could have calmly explained to the man that he has no obligation to say please, and if he does not cooperate upon the next request, he will be physically removed from the vehicle, etc... and if that was explained clearly and calmly and the guy still doesn't do as told, then the actions would be perfectly justified.

Noir 03-09-2009 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul (Post 6319962)
Perhaps... but the border guard could still have handled it without going straight for a physical response.

He didn't. Border Guard asked 3 times.

Ax2-Y 03-09-2009 10:57 AM

haha how random! i know this guys son :eekthumb:


Quote:

Originally Posted by quasi (Post 6319893)
Whats dumb is he owns a home in Blaine. Have fun going to your vacation home or whatever the hell it is because they are going to make his life hell every single time he crosses for now on.

the house in blaine is actually an investment property the son lives in.

Mancini 03-09-2009 11:32 AM

Flagged for cavity search during each crossing.

It's common knowledge that they have authority and the chomps to use it. The driver had this coming.

3seriesBeeM 03-09-2009 01:05 PM

guys an idiot. You dont screw around with border guards especially in the post 9/11 era. He was warned 3 times next step is physical which happened what an idiot the guy si thinking the border guard was just joking

Noir 03-09-2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3seriesBeeM (Post 6320248)
guys an idiot. You dont screw around with border guards especially in the post 9/11 era. He was warned 3 times next step is physical which happened what an idiot the guy si thinking the border guard was just joking

The guy thought he was probably being slick. Probably doesn't get respect at all anywhere so he has to go around asking for it. Kinda sad really.

Gumby 03-09-2009 01:30 PM

He's lucky he didn't get tasered! :lol

InvisibleSoul 03-09-2009 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6320007)
He didn't. Border Guard asked 3 times.

Straight for physical response after asking three times I mean. Still could have been intermediary options.

q0192837465 03-09-2009 02:26 PM

damn, so unneessary on both parties

Noir 03-09-2009 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul (Post 6320349)
Straight for physical response after asking three times I mean. Still could have been intermediary options.

Like asking 2 more times?

Anyways, I get your point. He could've taken the next intermediary option and be polite. But by then, the border guard would be his bitch.

Luckily the guy only got the spray. I actually woudln't have minded the tazer in this situation. Either jolt his heart for darwinism, or jolt some braincells into revival for human progress. I'm all for it.

Oh and edit:
If he ever wanted to stop the Border Guards tazing him, he'd have to say "Please"

jeffh 03-09-2009 03:52 PM

^they are authority figures, the guy was playing chicken with the guard and he lost


they should charge him with mischief or whatever the US equivalent is, and then flag him so he gets annnoyed everytime he comes through


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