Lomac | 03-22-2009 03:37 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Darling
(Post 6341670)
Redline and Royalpurple are both top of the line synthetics.
Last time I checked (about 2 months ago) Mobil one is not a full synthetic.
I'm currently using Royalpurple in my tranny, power steering, and motor. I had an oil analysis done on my RP motor oil after 6000km. They came back and told me it had lots of life left in it based on the data they collected. | Royal Purple uses a petroleum base stock for their synthetic motor oils (at least in their non-XPR lineup), meaning that they're not 100% synthetic. Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp
(Post 6341673)
Early synthetics did have a 'solvent' property that essentially made it double as an engine cleaner. This cleans out all the crap left in older engines, and that can of course cause leaks. However, any decent modern synthetic will not have this problem.
That's where the "old school" comes from. Mechanics who saw synthetics beginning to being used, with solvent like properties it cleaned out the gunk causing leaks, and then the myth of synthetic oil automatically causing leaks began. | Modern synthetic oils are designed to clean out sludge in the engine, meaning that it eats away deposits left by dino oil that's blocking a small gap in a gasket, thus allowing the synthetic to leak out. Most reputable oil companies that sell synthetic oils even have a disclaimer on their website telling owners of cars with high mileage to stay away from their product because of that. Some synthetics come with a gasket conditioner designed to help combat this issue, but only a handful has it so far. Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Darling
(Post 6341670)
Synthetics are not thinner than dyno oils. That is a myth apparently.
The thing about the seals is that Synthetics do clean out motors well. So, if you have a very old motor that's been running on dyno its whole life, then switching to synthetic may not be a good idea. | Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp
(Post 6341673)
The "old school" comment comes from.. well your post shows exactly what I mean. The people who think that it's a "fact" that synthetic is "thinner" when it's not. At operating temperatures, they will be the same. | Yes, at optimal operating temperature both oils will have the same viscosity. What I was referring to I didn't really explain completely. As I posted above, synthetics (yes, even modern synthetics) contain chemicals designed to clean the engine. If you've been running 5w30 dino for the past 250,000 clicks without an oil leak, yet suddenly change to the equivalent synthetic brand, you're going to end up cleaning all of the deposits left behind from the dino crap. Through this process, leaks can appears once deposits are cleaned, giving the appearance that it's thinner.
Just didn't explain it completely, is all. Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp
(Post 6341673)
Of course there is a different between "old school" and "ignorant". Not a big one, but at least ignorant people have the ability to learn. | So which one am I? |