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ericthehalfbee 04-21-2009 09:48 PM

^ The only compromise you get is with the A3 since it's pretty much a MKV. The TT shares very little with the MKV except the engine layout and basic suspension.

The remainder of Audi's lineup (save for the Touareg based Q7 SUV) are all their own platforms with nothing at all shared with VW.

To say that Audi is an upgraded VW simply because one single model shares the basic platform is an over-generalization.


Next thing Z3guy is going to say is that a Gallardo is an upgraded Audi (same platform as R8) and since Audi=VW, then you can conclude the Gallardo is nothing more than a upgraded VW. :rolleyes:

fetched 04-22-2009 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Supafly (Post 6390480)
i agree with you on the first bit, i didn't see you >><< ...got confused....but..

haha rattle your cage much?....you my friend need to take a load off..

When did you last sit in a bmw/benz?...10yrs ago?..when your dad owned them?

Read magazines?...guy, give me a break, i own them; i don't read magazine hype about cars...again, I OWN them...
Audi interior is pretty darn cheap compared to upper level BMW/Mercedes (7 series,S-class, CL-class)...if you don't believe me, I'll offer you to come to my house and sit in my cars, then go to an audi dealership and sit in their cars...

you make me laugh.:haha:

C'mon, I picked magazines because they are less bias than you and I. Let's not playing ecomparing, because your always going to be more e-baller than me. If you think the 7 series interior is decent, that means you haven't sat in a A8 yet, son. No wait, aren't you in your 40s SUPAFLY?

HonestTea 04-22-2009 02:23 AM

^ Why don't you take him up on his offer? lol

ericthehalfbee 04-22-2009 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supafly (Post 6390480)
Read magazines?...guy, give me a break, i own them; i don't read magazine hype about cars...again, I OWN them...
Audi interior is pretty darn cheap compared to upper level BMW/Mercedes (7 series,S-class, CL-class)...if you don't believe me, I'll offer you to come to my house and sit in my cars, then go to an audi dealership and sit in their cars...

you make me laugh.:haha:

You're the one making me laugh.

I work on and drive these cars every single day, since our shop specializes in high-end cars only.

I don't own a VW/Audi, nor do I own a BMW or Mercedes. But anyone can see that Audi is ahead in this area. What did you compare, a new 7 series to a beat up A3?

Had an SL65 in just the other day, and I can't believe what a POS this car had for an interior - especially for the $140K the owner paid for it. Plastic looks cheap, fit was poor, things were falling apart. And this on a car with under 20K on the odo. Had I known your comment was coming I would have taken pics just to prove my point.


I suppose the next thing you're going to say is that when magazines test a car and say it can run 0-60 in 5.0 seconds that it's stupid for anyone to believe them? There's a reason that every single professional reviewer, whose opinions matter far more than yours, consistently comment on the level of quality of Audi interiors. And all those industry awards they've won for interior design and quality? Meaningless. Just like your biased opinion is.

Great68 04-22-2009 06:25 AM

Audi has come a long way from building major shitboxes in the 80's.

Supafly 04-22-2009 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fetched (Post 6392272)
No wait, aren't you in your 40s SUPAFLY?

lol, you get pretty riled up over nothing..its just personal opinion right?...Im more biased toward a MB and BMW whereas you are more biased to your audis....I think a A8 has nothing on a S-Class or even the CL-Class...
yah, im in my 40s....right.:rolleyes:


Quote:

Originally Posted by ericthehalfbee (Post 6392351)
You're the one making me laugh.


Had an SL65 in just the other day, and I can't believe what a POS this car had for an interior - especially for the $140K the owner paid for it. Plastic looks cheap, fit was poor, things were falling apart. And this on a car with under 20K on the odo. Had I known your comment was coming I would have taken pics just to prove my point.

This i would pay to see...haha
There are always a bad apple in a crate, but not all are falling apart, or else there would be more reviews stating so....
But then again, a SL65 is not made for comfort...its made to be a sports car with gobbs of power.

which shop do you work for ( pm me) im curious as to which shop you work with..my family is pretty well known with higher end shops.:)

tgill 04-22-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Z3guy (Post 6390467)
So the A3 is not a stretched Golf chassis? the 1.8L & 2.0L turbos are only used on Audis right? wasn't the DSG tranny launched on the GTI? Although Porsche is the majority owner of VW/Audi, they share no parts. C'mon man, any smart profit focus parent company will be sharing components, drivetrains, and platforms between VW/Audi. Have you seen the latest VW diesel 2 door convertible sports car? Looks a diesel powered Boxter to me. Hmmmm, seems like both cars you can't access the engine compartment?....must be a fluke.

is the PDK not a DSG?, what about the Touareg and Cayenne? (audi Q7 too)

orange7 04-22-2009 03:27 PM

:Popcorn: :Popcorn:

fetched 04-22-2009 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supafly (Post 6392380)
lol, you get pretty riled up over nothing..its just personal opinion right?...Im more biased toward a MB and BMW whereas you are more biased to your audis....I think a A8 has nothing on a S-Class or even the CL-Class...
yah, im in my 40s....right.:rolleyes:

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
That is why i brought up how the magazine rated the interiors, because of their less bias opinions and better credentials? hahahahaha your as dumb as your name.
Why don't you show us what cars you have in your garage then i can bus over there and have a look at the sexy bimmer interior you assume they have.
M6 Interior. Starts at 121K.
http://www.carspace.com/arvin1/Album..../original.jpg
http://media.automotive.com/izmo/pix.../frontseat.jpg
S3 Interior. Starts at .....take a guess.
http://www.s-cars.org/postnuke/modul..._1920x1440.jpg
http://www.diseno-art.com/images_2/2...3_interior.jpg
Need i say more?

Kang19 04-22-2009 03:50 PM

LOL, completely unbiased here as I have a BMW myself. I like the look of the S3 interior better than the m6.

fetched 04-22-2009 03:55 PM

I purchased a BMW recently too but they just fail to realize that Audi's interior is 10x better than bimmers. No one ever questioned about BMW performance and handling. Ignorant fanboys.

Kang19 04-22-2009 06:45 PM

Ok well I wouldn't go as far as to say 10x better...Yes, it's better but I don't think you can say it's 10x better. BMW interior is not ugly...

Supafly 04-23-2009 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by fetched (Post 6392958)
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
That is why i brought up how the magazine rated the interiors, because of their less bias opinions and better credentials? hahahahaha your as dumb as your name.
Why don't you show us what cars you have in your garage then i can bus over there and have a look at the sexy bimmer interior you assume they have.
M6 Interior. Starts at 121K.


wow, good on you.. you act as if you're some joker kid that migrated here when vancouverxchange shutdown...you fail to see that i like getting you upset and riled up over comments about your prized olympic rings...

i don't need to post pics of my cars, just ask the forums, im sure plenty of people know me because i've been active on these forums for years...

so you resort to name calling...haha wow, you win buddy!:thumbsup:

edit: are you this arrogant and cocky in real life?...

Chuck Norris 04-23-2009 07:43 AM

Personal opinion I'd never buy a BMW post Bangle or since they put in i-drive. The last car they made that really made me interested was the previous gen M5.

ericthehalfbee 04-23-2009 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Supafly (Post 6393932)
edit: are you this arrogant and cocky in real life?...im surprised you work for somekind of highend luxury shop with that atitude....

You're confuing me with someone else I think.

q0192837465 04-23-2009 11:42 AM

well, I have bot Audi & BMW, & i'd say Audi's interior design is superior. BMW isnt bad, but i think it leans towards the function over form.

Supafly 04-23-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericthehalfbee (Post 6394038)
You're confuing me with someone else I think.

haha yeah i did...lol

fetched 04-23-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supafly (Post 6393932)
wow, good on you.. you act as if you're some joker kid that migrated here when vancouverxchange shutdown...you fail to see that i like getting you upset and riled up over comments about your prized olympic rings...

i don't need to post pics of my cars, just ask the forums, im sure plenty of people know me because i've been active on these forums for years...

so you resort to name calling...haha wow, you win buddy!:thumbsup:

edit: are you this arrogant and cocky in real life?...

Why would i be upset? I'm just trying to prove to you what the consensus is. Well, i'm alittle upset, cause i thought you were going to invite me over to your house and sit in your luxury automobiles? =(
Read what you wrote supafly, i'm sure your more cocky and arrogant than me.
Anyways, are you going to talk about more about interior? :haha:

Supafly 04-23-2009 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fetched (Post 6394251)
Why would i be upset? I'm just trying to prove to you what the consensus is. Well, i'm alittle upset, cause i thought you were going to invite me over to your house and sit in your luxury automobiles? =(
Read what you wrote supafly, i'm sure your more cocky and arrogant than me.
Anyways, are you going to talk about more about interior? :haha:

lol...i like to test the limits of people who defend their cars..lol
..i personally like clean interiors and not a clusterfuck of buttons.:)

I'll invite you over to my parents place sometime..but really, i dont even know who you are..lol, maybe when i meet you first..;)

flagella 04-23-2009 02:02 PM

http://www.flixxy.com/jpeg-org/bmw.jpg

http://www.flixxy.com/jpeg-org/audi.jpg

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...age&img=618556

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...age&img=618557

batrug 04-23-2009 02:53 PM

HAHA YES!
i think merc should put up a billboard with their biggest Gclass suv and just write "enough games...bitches" and end it. or bentley, maybach, aston or any other TRUELY prestigious brand.

tgill 04-23-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batrug (Post 6394498)
HAHA YES!
i think merc should put up a billboard with their biggest Gclass suv and just write "enough games...bitches" and end it. or bentley, maybach, aston or any other TRUELY prestigious brand.

you do know bentley is owned by the same company as audi?, VW.

yvrnycracer 04-24-2009 12:33 PM

TDI = Audi then trickled down to VW
1.8T = Audi then trickled down to VW
2.0T = Audi then trickled down to VW

Both the Touareg with V8 FSI and V6 TDI engines are audi engines. FSI engines are developed by Audi and then trickled down to VW...

VW's get more things from audi then audi gets from VW in the end. A good example that both companies use different AWD systems. 4Motion and Quattro are different. VAG is the parent company of Audi but when you look at it Audi is really its own company under the umbrella of VAG.

Lamborghini is under Audi, not VW. Bentley on the other hand is under VW which is clearly demonstrated by the Bi Turbo W12 found in the Continental GT. And lets not forget Bugatti :D

Audi's are the new Hip/Cool... BMW is old news and Mercedes is trying to regain a younger clientele with cars like the C63 and the GLK...

But lets not forget that PORSCHE is now the big daddy of all the VAG brands...

batrug 04-25-2009 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tgill (Post 6394723)
you do know bentley is owned by the same company as audi?, VW.

yeah skipped my mine. vw owns alot. even better in that case if they used a bentley. whatever, u get the point.

Got Torque 04-27-2009 07:03 PM

It's VWAG.
Porsche is majority stake holder now and is still trying to gain further control. There main reason for doing this was to get Audi.
Their brands are now VW, Audi, Lamborghini, Bentley, Bugatti, Seat, Skoda, Scania.
They are Europe's biggest Auto Manufacturer and are number two in the world overall and I believe they passed Toyota for #1 for 2009 first quarter sales.
Audi is behind BMW and Mercedes in North America but are gaining ground quickly, their sales plan is to be number 1 within the next eight years. In 2008 Audi for the first time in their history sold one million cars globally. For 2009 they expected a increase again but given the state of the world economy they are now thinking they will decrease by 10%. BMW and Mercedes are in a world of trouble so far into 2009.
Audi has had the best interior in automotive for the last several years.
Audi's technology is theirs for the most part, they used to share alot of platforms with VW but that is going away. VW and Audi are on a serious brand splitting venture right now, the dealers who have joint franchises have been told they must split the dealers, they must be in separate buildings and most of the dealers have already conformed to this or are in process of doing so.
As far as accolades are concerned I don't think Audi is too concerned being associated with VW. Audi has been winning awards every year with their cars. Their new flagship R8 V10 is to be available soon in North America. After driving the V8 version I can say this car will be simply outstanding. They will have a 3.0L TDI for the A4 and have a TDI for the Q7 and one should be available for the Q5 soon. Also the RS5 will be coming shortly. The other car to watch for is the new RS6, soon to be the worlds fastest production wagon/sedan which ungoverned could top 200mph. It is powered by a TT V10 engine producing 560bhp and 600+lb-ft of torque.
VW is having their own success with the new clean TDI engines which one a best of award at the LA Autoshow over Hybrid powered vehicles!!! The new yet to be released 2010 Golf was named World Car of the Year at the NY Auto Show. The new V6 TDI engine found in the Touareg has been said to be the most advanced automotive engine to date. It produces about 220bhp and about 400lb-ft of torque while still getting hwy/city mileage of around 9/10L per 100kms.
Then you have the technology VW came up with for the Veyron, the car that people said no one could build.


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