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wasabisashimi 04-30-2009 10:30 AM

good car bad car
 
What is the most reliable and unreliable luxury car brand? (out of the list below, feel free to add some missing names)

BMW, MBenz, Audi, Land Rover, Jaguar, Porsche, volvo, Cadillac, (excluding japanese brands such as lexus, infiniti, and acura)

thumper 04-30-2009 10:43 AM

according to consumer reports, land rover (range rover?) is dead last, with mercedes not far behind... not sure of the rest.

Kang19 04-30-2009 10:45 AM

I believe, according to reports, Jaguar is front runner.

absolution 04-30-2009 10:59 AM

Audi Porsche Jaguar top 3

MBenz BMW Cadilac last 3

Adsdeman 04-30-2009 11:13 AM

only newer jags the old ones are shite mate!

TRD3000GT 04-30-2009 09:30 PM

This is what you need
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings...tings-by-brand

asian_XL 04-30-2009 09:40 PM

there's no good car if you do silly things to it.

Oversight 05-01-2009 06:44 AM

I go by this rule: Europe = bad. Japan = good. American = in the middle (unless youre talking buick or any car with an engine from the old 3800 line or a 4 sp auto, then they're bulletproof).
Reliability-wise.

This does not impact style or feel, where obviously the Euros dominate.

AAnthony 05-01-2009 07:46 AM

If your going to buy a jag, dont buy a new one, they are always at the top of the list for the most depreciating cars. Take for example my s-type, they are worth like 17 grand now...... This was a car that retailed for about 60. Out of the top 10 depreciating cars 3 of them were jaguars, if i remember correctly it was the s-type, x-type, and xj

thumper 05-01-2009 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AAnthony (Post 6405240)
If your going to buy a jag, dont buy a new one, they are always at the top of the list for the most depreciating cars. Take for example my s-type, they are worth like 17 grand now...... This was a car that retailed for about 60. Out of the top 10 depreciating cars 3 of them were jaguars, if i remember correctly it was the s-type, x-type, and xj

what do u think the future will be for the new XF?

ilvtofu 05-02-2009 08:53 AM

lol i thought this car was about good and bad cars... reliability is never a defining characteristic of any car, unless it's ridiculously bad and breaks down every couple of months (or feet), but there should be an acceptable amount of minor problems.

PavelGTR 05-02-2009 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oversight (Post 6405203)
I go by this rule: Europe = bad. Japan = good. American = in the middle (unless youre talking buick or any car with an engine from the old 3800 line or a 4 sp auto, then they're bulletproof).
Reliability-wise.

This does not impact style or feel, where obviously the Euros dominate.

Europe = bad? stop hitting the pipe man.

wasabisashimi 05-02-2009 11:55 AM

reliability to me means : car will have no problem for certain amount of year ( no hidden cost, besides the regular maintenance). For example, had an X5, after 3 years, the trunk opens by itself whenever i flick the headlight switch on. Another 6month later, the power lock mechanism is broken. Then, in its almost 5th year of ownership, the airbag warning sign came on the dash, BMW said the airbag module is broken.

I said " fuck you and your fucking problematic car" for 60,000$ I would expect you (BMW) to build me a car that would last 5yrs without problem and oh btw, hire an electrical engineer so that the headlight switch and trunk release wires are not mixed up"

My first car, a honda accord, besides timing belt, water pump, spark plug, nothing ever went wrong. There is just one time the daytime driving light module was broken, but hey, its a 1998.

I think I got a lemon from BMW. This thread is about how often a car company sells a lemon. From the consumer report I guess BMW seem to make more lemon as a luxury brand

van_driver 05-02-2009 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AAnthony (Post 6405240)
If your going to buy a jag, dont buy a new one, they are always at the top of the list for the most depreciating cars. Take for example my s-type, they are worth like 17 grand now...... This was a car that retailed for about 60. Out of the top 10 depreciating cars 3 of them were jaguars, if i remember correctly it was the s-type, x-type, and xj

Yeah I don't understand why this happens. To an untrained eye, they look like they should be up there with high end Benz'. Any big reason why they depreciate so badly? Maintenance costs too high?

Boostaholic 05-02-2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by van_driver (Post 6406672)
Yeah I don't understand why this happens. To an untrained eye, they look like they should be up there with high end Benz'. Any big reason why they depreciate so badly? Maintenance costs too high?

supply and demand. People who have the money don't buy used. people don't have the money is willing to settle with something less flashy.

Hondaracer 05-02-2009 02:44 PM

always thought recently Lexus had the highest customer satisfaction and lowest amount of problems?


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