my freind with an L was driving on kingsway (burnaby side) with 5 of my other freinds and me
he got pulled over by the rcmp the cop was really nice and just let my other friend with an N to drive his car home which wasnt that far.
insurance didnt really seem like an issue atm but i dunno i just recently got my N and still dont have a clue about insurance my parents handle that part
i thought that insurance was under the actual person and not the car

I don't think you should be furious - but your dad will be with your "brother"...

You should be more mad at your brother.

probably already answered but short answer: yes they can do that.

and the main reason for tow is that they saw ur bro drive.

The reason why they could have told the G/F that she wasn't allowed to drive the car was possibly because the insurance on the car is only for drivers with 10+ years of driving experience. Many parents have this on their insurance, yet forget all about it when they go to lend it to their son or daughter. It wouldn't necessarily be grounds for having it towed, but when it's compounded by the fact that they saw someone driving it who had a suspended license, that merely was the icing on the cake.

i think he is pissed is because his brother = him.........

It was just verbal consent that I got but i'm not sure what is the acceptable way by law

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Police literally stolen/taken my family's car from the street?

this title is misleading because the police did not literally stole the car

This is 100% wrong. How do you think people test drive cars? Why do you think they ask who the "principle operator" is on the insurance? Note "principle operator", not "sole operator".

edit: and the OP's "brother" shouldn't have been making (likely completely unnecessary) trips to the mall if it was OH NOES HIS DADS CAR WHO NEEDS IT FOR WORK ZOMG. Man up and take responsibility.

in many culture, in a situation like this taking responsibility means hurting real bad ;)

I'm not sure in what warped universe a cop would recall seeing your brother parking a car at the mall and then for some reason pull the vehicle over when his gf was driving? Either your brother drives (parks) like a retard attracting attention, or his gf does (how incompetent can you be to think you can drive on the public street but not park?).

uh huh,
how long were they in the mall for?
I don't see why the police would ponder outside the mall for a few hours waiting for the two of them to do their things inside. There's gotta be much more (or much less) information that what you're giving.

I think this is a lot less about ICBC/the police than about what you're trying to cover up with your story to ask a question while maintaining a neutral position in the situation.

Regardless, I hope your dad isn't like Russell Peter's dad.

like lomac said its probably the insurance paper that state is only allow to be driven by a person with 10+ years of driving experience. for me to drive my parents car, my dad had to change his insurance to a more expensive one to cover a person without 10+ years experience
but anyone can drive that car as long as its insured


but im thinking the story this person is telling us is not full
it makes no sense for a cop to stay around a mall for so long just to pull you over
and how did they know at that time he had a suspended licence anyways

so now, u are the brother of the OP?:haha:

this is just getting good, i am sure there is more to the story than what the op had told us.

1, his parents proberly had the 10 years or over driving expreience saving on their insurance which means anyone under 10 years driving experience wont be able to operate the vehicle.

2, he/or his brother was driving the vehicle without a DL and happend to get stopped on the road, and then quickly switch seats with the gf and the pop saw them do it.

I'm going to requote this, because it's true, and I am shocked that it didn't come up sooner in the thread.

And I'm requoting this, because it's most likely true, and fucking hilarious

Lomac hit the spot. when i got pulled over for front tint back in december, the cop said i can't drive the car because it was under my dad's name. but i did not know the insurance was probably insured for 10+ years licensed drivers. so that's why the cop said i couldn't drive it. but now the restriction is off and i can drive the vehicle 49% of the time, according to my insurance agent. so pretty much if there is no 10+ year restriction(cheaper insurance) on the insurance, pretty much anyone can drive the vehicle with the owner's permission.

Seriously! Why aren't more people concerned about this? How can someone have an N license and not be able to park? WTF is wrong with our driver education system???

Your ICBC insurance allows anyone who has the owner's permission to operate the car and be insured, unless the policy explicitly says that can't happen. A random stranger can drive your dad's car if his permission has given.

In the OP's case, I think he should have deny the police's request to see his driver's license. The police have no right to demand your license unless you are operating or in charge of a motor vehicle.

The police could demand to know your name and address only if you were suspected, on reasonable grounds, to have committed or will commit an offense.

In the OP's case, driving a car in a parking lot doesn't give the police reasonable grounds to detain (and question) you...unless the cop knows prior to pulling you over that your license was suspended.

I think you should dispute the ticket in court. The burden of proof lies with the crown to proof that the OP drove the vehicle. Not identifying the driver right away (ie pulling over the car some minutes later) should raise reasonable doubts that the person ticketed and the person driving some minutes earlier is not the same person. Unless the cop was close to you while you parked and/or positively identified you before you went inside the mall, that should fly.

If the charge does that thrown out, you might be able to recover your costs on towing/storage...but I suspect that's more trouble than it's worth.

I don't think this is true. The restriction only applies to people in the same household.

For example, if my GF and her parents live together and her parents have that 10+ year restriction on the policy, my GF isn't allowed (by the policy) to drive the car, but I am (since I don't reside in the same household).

I'm pretty sure what Lomac is saying is sound.

And to deny the cop his license would've been a bad idea. The officer could've considered the vehicle stolen and had it impounded with the driver facing charges.




Time to stop QQing and suck it up.

It said in the insurance papers that the 10 year limit applies only to people living at the same address/household.

On what grounds would the cops consider the vehicle stolen? and what charges?

i've had a friend who had his license suspended before. he was at the beach and his ride was parked.

gets back hours later and a cop is waiting for him. reason? cop was running plates and it said the owners' license was suspended. so he just waited until the driver came back. if he has a license, it's all good. if not, you're screwed.

my buddy hops in and then gets pulled over right after he turns the key.

so yes they can and will wait all day if they feel like it.

So you think that if the person lives in the house and has less than 10 years of driving experience, they aren't allowed the drive, but if they live next door, they would be?