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taylor192 07-03-2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco911 (Post 6491909)
I think this is a great idea as long as they charge tolls to cyclists. They should see if they can privatize the project by selling it to Macquary bank, who will charge tolls. Considering the number of users, I'd conjecture tolls would be something like $45 / way to cover the cost. If a private company is not interested in this project, neither should the government be.

Or just take the Aquabus for $4.

q0192837465 07-03-2009 12:50 PM

It rains in Vancouver 8/12 months. It snows too. Who's gonna use the bridge when weather gets bad.

Not really racist! 07-03-2009 01:12 PM

NO.

411ken 07-03-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by q0192837465 (Post 6492615)
It rains in Vancouver 8/12 months. It snows too. Who's gonna use the bridge when weather gets bad.

I agree.

Also.. what if someone tries to jump off that bridge? Are they going to hold off the bike traffic?

Ridiculous idea.. just spend the money elsewhere that is useful for everyone and not just for ppl with bikes. lol

penner2k 07-03-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 411ken (Post 6492660)
I agree.

Also.. what if someone tries to jump off that bridge? Are they going to hold off the bike traffic?

Ridiculous idea.. just spend the money elsewhere that is useful for everyone and not just for ppl with bikes. lol

Do you realize how hypocritical you are being with your last statement?
If they do what you are suggesting then the only solution is to tear down the old bridge and build a new one with bike lanes attached which will cost 10x more then just building a pedestrian bridge.

People that walk and bike have just as much right to have infrastructure built for them as people with cars.

TRD3000GT 07-03-2009 06:59 PM

Wake up Gregor Robertson, you are not playing Sim City!!

Marco911 07-03-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by penner2k (Post 6492840)
People that walk and bike have just as much right to have infrastructure built for them as people with cars.

No they do not. Drivers pay for the priviledge of using roads and infrastructure with gas taxes and tolled hwys. Bikers want drivers to pay for them too. Fuck 'em.

maxx 07-03-2009 11:36 PM

hippies and communists

and they call Russians, communists. at least we dont fuck around with this green planet bullshit.


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43...pwr/russia.jpg

BNR32_Coupe 07-04-2009 12:16 AM

this cyclist shit is stupid. there's like 15 cyclists per peak hour that pass by the burrard street bridge, hardly enough traffic to make building a 40 million dollar bridge worth it in our life times.

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Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 6492610)
You can say the same for a lot of what tax dollars is spent on.
I'd rather spend tax dollars on infrastructure than most of the social programs. With the money wasted yearly in the DTES, Vancouver could have many new infrastructure projects serving a far greater area.

nice contradiction to a statement you made awhile ago about vancouverites not caring about the DTES problem.

monkeywrench 07-04-2009 12:22 AM

i have no comment on how fail this plan is. good way to blow our tax money, vancouver

EuroTRASH 07-04-2009 03:24 PM

The obvious solution to please both bikers and drivers is to just get rid of bikes.
Does anyone even care about bikers, their opinions, or their feelings?
Make bikers pay for the bike bridge.

BNR32_Coupe 07-04-2009 03:41 PM

BNR32 PROBLEM SOLUTION: how bout make 1 side of the bridge for pedestrians and the other side for bikers? there you go, i saved vancouver $40 million dollars. now give me 1% consultation fee. fuckin rocket science right here

AzNightmare 07-04-2009 04:07 PM

What a waste of money. This won't ever go through.
I hate people that make stupid remarks like:

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"I'm a biker, I don't really want to own a car ever, I have never owned a car. I'm 25 and I probably could afford one but I'm all about the biking so I would say yes, go for it! But is that going to mean an increase in taxes?"
I despise of people that are content with a bicycle as their method of inefficient transportation, most likely because the concept of driving is too complicated for them.

skyxx 07-04-2009 04:15 PM

I rather them spend that money on Transit....that's the truth....

pandalove 07-04-2009 04:23 PM

lawlz bikes .... i swear .. this is why canada is behind all the time .. always trying approaches that were used a hundred year ago... like i said before ... they all rather us ride horses and farm again

but it would be a good tourist attraction if its done right ... but shouldn't be only limited to bicycles... but no cars ofcourse

scheng924 07-05-2009 09:30 PM

$45 million.. i say move it towards public transit and expanding to more buses or routes or better skytrain system so people don't fucking just hop on....

how about that?.. instead of biking... because i'm pretty sure most bikers don't mind biking on the burrard street bridge...

ajax 07-05-2009 10:37 PM

Does anybody here from PoCo use the pedstrian overpass on Lougheed and Shaughnessy? The overpass can just be a smaller example of this bridge.

Death2Theft 07-06-2009 07:20 AM

What would be really funny is if they closed a lane down on the burrard st bridge and the critical mass people decided not to use it and still block traffic on burrard car lanes.

q0192837465 07-06-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Death2Theft (Post 6496046)
What would be really funny is if they closed a lane down on the burrard st bridge and the critical mass people decided not to use it and still block traffic on burrard car lanes.

u know wut, given their mentality, it's highly possible that it will happen.

Noir 07-06-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Death2Theft (Post 6496046)
What would be really funny is if they closed a lane down on the burrard st bridge and the critical mass people decided not to use it and still block traffic on burrard car lanes.

Man, woman or child, I wish the people of that group would get into a severe traffic accident. Unfortunately the good citizens of Vancouver have more sense than to do such a thing but it draws my ire that they purposely take advantage of that courtesy to propel their own agendas.

:2finger:

quasi 07-06-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by penner2k (Post 6492528)
You can say the same thing about twinning the Port Mann Bridge though. Or building that new bridge from Langley to Pitt Meadows.. Not everyone is using those yet everyone is paying for them.

I'm not going to the Olympics but my tax money is paying for it.

Those two bridges are really bad examples. The Golden Ears is tolled and the Port Mann will be tolled once twined until they are paid for. They are being paid for by the people who use them.

The Sea to Sky expansion would make your point though. You wouldn't want to toll that and have the elected bureaucrats pay to drive to their winter vacation homes in Whistler, that would be a travesty.

iEatClams 07-06-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by quasi (Post 6496641)
Those two bridges are really bad examples. The Golden Ears is tolled and the Port Mann will be tolled once twined until they are paid for. They are being paid for by the people who use them.

The Sea to Sky expansion would make your point though. You wouldn't want to toll that and have the elected bureaucrats pay to drive to their winter vacation homes in Whistler, that would be a travesty.

Damn, so they really are going to Toll the port mann? Kinda sucks to the people that live in the valley. The port mann is one of the busiest if not busiest bridge in the lower mainland. I mean, the people that live in the valley obviously can't afford to live in vancouver where housing is like 600K for a small POS. Most of the jobs are in on the west side of the Port Mann so thousands are forced to drive there.

If theres an accident on the Port Mann, the backup is all the way to like Langley and sometimes past Aldergrove.

Theres soo much commercial traffic from the trucks that bring in goods in from the east, I just hope the Toll isn't really ridiculously expensive. Poor Surrey, Langley, Abbotsford people. . . .

Death2Theft 07-06-2009 09:52 PM

Good then maybe people will start carpooling/transit.

pure-euro-trash 07-12-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by azndude69 (Post 6497107)
I just hope the Toll isn't really ridiculously expensive. Poor Surrey, Langley, Abbotsford people. . . .

$3+ each way.

They absolutely have to toll it. The governments own figures show that if the bridge wasn't tolled, traffic would be just as bad as it is today in only a few years (4-5) after bridge completion. By tolling the bridge and discouraging automobile use, meeting maximum traffic capacity is delayed for 20-25 years.

Regardless, at some point the gridlock on the new Port Mann will be the same as it is today, just 10 lanes across.

jeff_alexander 07-13-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pure-euro-trash (Post 6505362)
$3+ each way.

They absolutely have to toll it. The governments own figures show that if the bridge wasn't tolled, traffic would be just as bad as it is today in only a few years (4-5) after bridge completion. By tolling the bridge and discouraging automobile use, meeting maximum traffic capacity is delayed for 20-25 years.

Regardless, at some point the gridlock on the new Port Mann will be the same as it is today, just 10 lanes across.


HA, how will tolling discourage automobile usage? If high gas prices didn't a simple $3 fee won't either.


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