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07-03-2009, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Marco911  I think this is a great idea as long as they charge tolls to cyclists. They should see if they can privatize the project by selling it to Macquary bank, who will charge tolls. Considering the number of users, I'd conjecture tolls would be something like $45 / way to cover the cost. If a private company is not interested in this project, neither should the government be. | Or just take the Aquabus for $4.
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07-03-2009, 12:50 PM
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It rains in Vancouver 8/12 months. It snows too. Who's gonna use the bridge when weather gets bad.
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07-03-2009, 01:12 PM
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#28 | | manage the cap you say????
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07-03-2009, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by q0192837465 It rains in Vancouver 8/12 months. It snows too. Who's gonna use the bridge when weather gets bad. | I agree.
Also.. what if someone tries to jump off that bridge? Are they going to hold off the bike traffic?
Ridiculous idea.. just spend the money elsewhere that is useful for everyone and not just for ppl with bikes. lol
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07-03-2009, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 411ken I agree.
Also.. what if someone tries to jump off that bridge? Are they going to hold off the bike traffic?
Ridiculous idea.. just spend the money elsewhere that is useful for everyone and not just for ppl with bikes. lol | Do you realize how hypocritical you are being with your last statement?
If they do what you are suggesting then the only solution is to tear down the old bridge and build a new one with bike lanes attached which will cost 10x more then just building a pedestrian bridge.
People that walk and bike have just as much right to have infrastructure built for them as people with cars.
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07-03-2009, 06:59 PM
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07-03-2009, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by penner2k People that walk and bike have just as much right to have infrastructure built for them as people with cars. | No they do not. Drivers pay for the priviledge of using roads and infrastructure with gas taxes and tolled hwys. Bikers want drivers to pay for them too. Fuck 'em.
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07-03-2009, 11:36 PM
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hippies and communists
and they call Russians, communists. at least we dont fuck around with this green planet bullshit. 
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07-04-2009, 12:16 AM
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this cyclist shit is stupid. there's like 15 cyclists per peak hour that pass by the burrard street bridge, hardly enough traffic to make building a 40 million dollar bridge worth it in our life times. Quote:
Originally Posted by taylor192 You can say the same for a lot of what tax dollars is spent on.
I'd rather spend tax dollars on infrastructure than most of the social programs. With the money wasted yearly in the DTES, Vancouver could have many new infrastructure projects serving a far greater area. | nice contradiction to a statement you made awhile ago about vancouverites not caring about the DTES problem.
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07-04-2009, 12:22 AM
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i have no comment on how fail this plan is. good way to blow our tax money, vancouver
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07-04-2009, 03:24 PM
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The obvious solution to please both bikers and drivers is to just get rid of bikes.
Does anyone even care about bikers, their opinions, or their feelings?
Make bikers pay for the bike bridge.
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07-04-2009, 03:41 PM
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BNR32 PROBLEM SOLUTION: how bout make 1 side of the bridge for pedestrians and the other side for bikers? there you go, i saved vancouver $40 million dollars. now give me 1% consultation fee. fuckin rocket science right here
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07-04-2009, 04:07 PM
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What a waste of money. This won't ever go through.
I hate people that make stupid remarks like: Quote: |
"I'm a biker, I don't really want to own a car ever, I have never owned a car. I'm 25 and I probably could afford one but I'm all about the biking so I would say yes, go for it! But is that going to mean an increase in taxes?"
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07-04-2009, 04:15 PM
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I rather them spend that money on Transit....that's the truth....
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07-04-2009, 04:23 PM
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lawlz bikes .... i swear .. this is why canada is behind all the time .. always trying approaches that were used a hundred year ago... like i said before ... they all rather us ride horses and farm again
but it would be a good tourist attraction if its done right ... but shouldn't be only limited to bicycles... but no cars ofcourse
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07-05-2009, 09:30 PM
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#41 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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$45 million.. i say move it towards public transit and expanding to more buses or routes or better skytrain system so people don't fucking just hop on....
how about that?.. instead of biking... because i'm pretty sure most bikers don't mind biking on the burrard street bridge...
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07-05-2009, 10:37 PM
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Does anybody here from PoCo use the pedstrian overpass on Lougheed and Shaughnessy? The overpass can just be a smaller example of this bridge.
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07-06-2009, 07:20 AM
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What would be really funny is if they closed a lane down on the burrard st bridge and the critical mass people decided not to use it and still block traffic on burrard car lanes.
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07-06-2009, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Death2Theft What would be really funny is if they closed a lane down on the burrard st bridge and the critical mass people decided not to use it and still block traffic on burrard car lanes. | u know wut, given their mentality, it's highly possible that it will happen.
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07-06-2009, 03:51 PM
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#45 | | Hypa owned my ass at least once
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Originally Posted by Death2Theft What would be really funny is if they closed a lane down on the burrard st bridge and the critical mass people decided not to use it and still block traffic on burrard car lanes. | Man, woman or child, I wish the people of that group would get into a severe traffic accident. Unfortunately the good citizens of Vancouver have more sense than to do such a thing but it draws my ire that they purposely take advantage of that courtesy to propel their own agendas.  | |
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07-06-2009, 04:28 PM
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#46 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by penner2k You can say the same thing about twinning the Port Mann Bridge though. Or building that new bridge from Langley to Pitt Meadows.. Not everyone is using those yet everyone is paying for them.
I'm not going to the Olympics but my tax money is paying for it. | Those two bridges are really bad examples. The Golden Ears is tolled and the Port Mann will be tolled once twined until they are paid for. They are being paid for by the people who use them.
The Sea to Sky expansion would make your point though. You wouldn't want to toll that and have the elected bureaucrats pay to drive to their winter vacation homes in Whistler, that would be a travesty.
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07-06-2009, 09:33 PM
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#47 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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Originally Posted by quasi Those two bridges are really bad examples. The Golden Ears is tolled and the Port Mann will be tolled once twined until they are paid for. They are being paid for by the people who use them.
The Sea to Sky expansion would make your point though. You wouldn't want to toll that and have the elected bureaucrats pay to drive to their winter vacation homes in Whistler, that would be a travesty. | Damn, so they really are going to Toll the port mann? Kinda sucks to the people that live in the valley. The port mann is one of the busiest if not busiest bridge in the lower mainland. I mean, the people that live in the valley obviously can't afford to live in vancouver where housing is like 600K for a small POS. Most of the jobs are in on the west side of the Port Mann so thousands are forced to drive there.
If theres an accident on the Port Mann, the backup is all the way to like Langley and sometimes past Aldergrove.
Theres soo much commercial traffic from the trucks that bring in goods in from the east, I just hope the Toll isn't really ridiculously expensive. Poor Surrey, Langley, Abbotsford people. . . .
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07-06-2009, 09:52 PM
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#48 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Good then maybe people will start carpooling/transit.
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07-12-2009, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by azndude69 I just hope the Toll isn't really ridiculously expensive. Poor Surrey, Langley, Abbotsford people. . . . | $3+ each way.
They absolutely have to toll it. The governments own figures show that if the bridge wasn't tolled, traffic would be just as bad as it is today in only a few years (4-5) after bridge completion. By tolling the bridge and discouraging automobile use, meeting maximum traffic capacity is delayed for 20-25 years.
Regardless, at some point the gridlock on the new Port Mann will be the same as it is today, just 10 lanes across.
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07-13-2009, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pure-euro-trash $3+ each way.
They absolutely have to toll it. The governments own figures show that if the bridge wasn't tolled, traffic would be just as bad as it is today in only a few years (4-5) after bridge completion. By tolling the bridge and discouraging automobile use, meeting maximum traffic capacity is delayed for 20-25 years.
Regardless, at some point the gridlock on the new Port Mann will be the same as it is today, just 10 lanes across. |
HA, how will tolling discourage automobile usage? If high gas prices didn't a simple $3 fee won't either.
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