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kumbo1 07-04-2009 12:31 PM

VW Golf GTD launches in Germany starting at 27,475 euros
 
Volkswagen is touting the new Golf GTD, launched in Germany today, as the GTI of diesels. That's because the GTD is based on the petrol GTI but with one fundamental difference: the engine. The car uses a 2.0-litre direct injection common rail turbo diesel motor good for 125kW (170hp) at 4,200rpm. While this may not exactly match the GTI's 155kW (211hp) the GTD excels where most diesel-heads expect it to and that is in torque delivery. Peak pulling force is 350Nm made between 1,750rpm and 2,500rpm.

Performance is said to rival that of more powerful petrol-driven cars. The 0 - 100km/h sprint takes place in 8.1 seconds and top speed is 220km/h (136.7mph). When fitted with the standard 6-speed manual transmission the GTD returns a fuel economy figure of 5.3 litres per 100km (53.3 UK mpg) which goes with a C02 figure of 139g/km. The quick-changing DGS version has a claimed fuel economy of 5.6 litres per 100km (50.44 UK mpg), equating to C02 emissions of 147g/km. Theoretically then the GTD can travel for over 1,000km (621 miles) on a single tank of diesel from its 55 litre tank.

The car's sporting intentions are clear even from a visual point of view. GTI-inspired bits include the chrome horizontal stripes on the front grille, standard fog lights and twin chrome tailpipes. The chassis has been lowered by 15mm and 17-inch wheels with 225 section tyres.

Inside the GTD features sports seats similar to those in the GTI but feature the same "Jacky" fabric pattern with a light grey colour diamond stripe pattern instead of a red like in the GTI. A three-spoke leather steering wheel is featured. Other equipment includes an RCD 210 radio system, automatic climate control, ESP with countersteer assist and VW's ParkPilot system.

Prices start at €27,475 (US$38,100) for the 6-speed manual and €29,350 (US$40,700) for the DSG version. The five-door will cost an extra €765 (US$1,060) over the three-door prices.

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skyxx 07-04-2009 12:39 PM

I hope they bring it over!!!!!

The price in Europe has little to do with the price in the states. I think we all know that.

tofu1413 07-04-2009 12:46 PM

US spec cars have less features.. so its gonna be cheaper over here..

!Aznboi128 07-04-2009 01:21 PM

looks pretty good like all the new gen and diesel is a smart move...

ilvtofu 07-04-2009 02:22 PM

sounds good but HP is a bit low, all that torque is useless and it'll still be slower than a petrol version.

fliptuner 07-04-2009 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvtofu (Post 6493867)
sounds good but HP is a bit low, all that torque is useless and it'll still be slower than a petrol version.

Put 4 people in a new Civic Si and see what happens.

It's not a sports car. It's a sport minded economy car.

Torque is useless? :rolleyes:

ilvtofu 07-04-2009 03:47 PM

I meant the extra torque over the regular GTI
Don't use a civic as an example... VTEC won't kick in early enough :haha:

skyxx 07-04-2009 04:09 PM

I rather have torque over power. It's what counts in city driving. :) Me love Diesels!!! Me love TORQUE!!!!

ilvtofu 07-04-2009 04:26 PM

Well the stock >200 that the GTi puts out is more than adequate for city driving, and can be modified to sound pretty good :)
I'm assuming the GTD will have a price premium over the GTI that you are supposed to save in gas bills,
ouch their DSG option costs 2700 USD!?!!? that's way more than here.
Chances are they won't bring it over though, seems like a smart choice to me, but US market will probably be weak

skyxx 07-04-2009 04:30 PM

North America needs to divert more of their refinery process to Diesel, that way Diesel will be cheaper. It has been said many times. We need more diesels, people have to understand that diesel engines are far more efficient than their petrol counterparts. :/

heleu 07-04-2009 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvtofu (Post 6494047)
Well the stock >200 that the GTi puts out is more than adequate for city driving, and can be modified to sound pretty good :)
I'm assuming the GTD will have a price premium over the GTI that you are supposed to save in gas bills,
ouch their DSG option costs 2700 USD!?!!? that's way more than here.
Chances are they won't bring it over though, seems like a smart choice to me, but US market will probably be weak

I think the real question is what the torque curve is like. I have a feeling it starts much earlier and stays constant longer for the TDI.

I want one. Even my friends 04 Jetta TDI (with 92HP?!) was pretty cool.

It's a perfect car for most people...not on these forums. :D

spenny 07-04-2009 11:12 PM

another neat car we wont get.

bcrdukes 07-05-2009 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvtofu (Post 6493867)
sounds good but HP is a bit low, all that torque is useless and it'll still be slower than a petrol version.

Please think before you post.

asian_XL 07-05-2009 05:06 AM

$40k usd for a GOLF? WHAT?

ilvtofu 07-05-2009 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 6494568)
Please think before you post.

GTD vs GTI... nurburgring... hmmm

...lap times not fuel economy

bcrdukes 07-05-2009 12:18 PM

Who said anything about The Ring? Your train of thought is totally beyond any level of fundamental comprehension.

ilvtofu 07-05-2009 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 6494957)
Who said anything about The Ring? Your train of thought is totally beyond any level of fundamental comprehension.


Clearly disagreeing with me from the beginning when I said the GTI would be faster than the GTD, when the 0-60 times don't lie... And then avoiding "the Ring", please explain, i'm clearly too dumb for RS

bcrdukes 07-05-2009 12:43 PM

Are you mentally challenged? You cannot compare a motor built for fuel economy to a motor that was built for performance. That's like comparing apples to bananas. And your comment about torque being useless? Wow. I'm done with you on that one.

ilvtofu 07-05-2009 12:47 PM

Torque as in the additional torque over the 200 lb-ft the GTI already has,
which no one can complain about
This is intended as a sportier model over the regular golf diesels.
Hence the sport suspension and higher price tag.

also quoting the article "Performance is said to rival that of more powerful petrol-driven cars"

tofu1413 07-06-2009 06:57 PM

at this rate, this is gonna end up in fight club~ T_T

orange7 07-06-2009 11:49 PM

hm.. those fuel economy numbers are pretty good...... hm... but the price... hmm....

skyxx 07-07-2009 01:35 AM

If it comes to Canada I assume it'll cost around 29K base :)


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