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chileanwinehous 07-05-2009 12:31 PM

First Pc Build help
 
Ive been wanting to play crysis for a while. Im a consol guy and have been all my life. I see that pc's are cheap these days and was wondering if I should buy one from Best buy or build it myself. I dont care for blue ray player.

what parts would I need to play this crysis game full settings? and how much am I looking at $?

Cman333 07-05-2009 02:06 PM

Crysis eh?

I'd say $1500ish for parts at least to run it at full settings

Just for the tower.....still might not be enough.

roastpuff 07-05-2009 02:55 PM

Yeah, I just priced out a tower build using i7 920, 6GB, X58 motherboard, 1TB, 1 DVD burner, 700W OCZ PSU and 2x 4890XXX CFed and it came out to be ~$1600 before taxes. This should be able to run it at 1680x1050 with 4xAA and have no problem, but it's going to be a noisy monster.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ossFire/6.html

And by the way, please don't buy a computer from Best Buy. Go get NCIX to assemble one for you.

Manic! 07-05-2009 03:17 PM

Mabe look at Dell
http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/topi...mn4Y8deKrue.iw

Carl Johnson 07-05-2009 04:15 PM

what resolution are you planning to play at? Are you going to be playing Crysis with AA + AF? How long are you going to keep the PC for?

If you are going to be playing anywhere near the HD resolution with 35+ FPS you are probably looking at spending $1400+ just for the rig itself.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/sapphi...aporx-review/8
http://www.guru3d.com/article/sapphi...porx-review/13

roastpuff 07-05-2009 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 6495173)

Uh... no. To get to my specified rig above, it'll cost $2000+.

asian_XL 07-05-2009 07:23 PM

motherboard: Gigabyte EP43-UD3L $95.5
CPU: Intel e5200 o/c @ 4ghz - $80
Ram: 2gb - $33
HD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB $59
DVD: Samsung DVD writer $23.5
Video card: GTX 275 $260
LCD: ASUS VH222H 1920x1080 $195
Case: Cheap Logisys case with 480w PSU: $45

Keyboard/mouse:/speakers ??

Total: $791 + tax

twitchyzero 07-05-2009 08:22 PM

^2GB ram isnt gonna get you far

roastpuff 07-05-2009 08:50 PM

And that's not going to run Crysis at full with 4xAA/AF at 1680x1050.

Carl Johnson 07-05-2009 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asian_XL (Post 6495442)
motherboard: Gigabyte EP43-UD3L $95.5
CPU: Intel e5200 o/c @ 4ghz - $80
Ram: 2gb - $33
HD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB $59
DVD: Samsung DVD writer $23.5
Video card: GTX 275 $260
LCD: ASUS VH222H 1920x1080 $195
Case: Cheap Logisys case with 480w PSU: $45

Keyboard/mouse:/speakers ??

Total: $791 + tax

The man needs at least an i7 processor with 6 gigs of ram. I don't mind the graphics card choice but don't cheap out on the mobo/case/psu. If you are going to build a gaming machine then invest the money in it; just don't build a half ass one then scratching your head and wondering why the visuals looks so crappy and game is lagging.

asian_XL 07-05-2009 09:02 PM

fine, another $100 on the o/ced GTX 285
and some ram...still under $1000

01-xtreme 07-05-2009 09:38 PM

^game won't lag, just long load times.

bestbuy lied to you. you don't need an i7+6gb ram to play nice games.

roastpuff 07-05-2009 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 01-xtreme (Post 6495615)
^game won't lag, just long load times.

bestbuy lied to you. you don't need an i7+6gb ram to play nice games.

OP's talking about running it at FULL at HIGH resolution. For me, that means everything turned up plus at least 4xAA/AF, and something like 1680x1050 or higher. And if we're talking Crysis, judging by the benchies done by test sites - one of which I linked up there, you need a fairly robust system if a i7 965 + 6GB + GTX 295 1792MB is cranking out an average of only 50fps.

Plus, if he wants to be playing games and not bother upgrading for a while, there's nothing to do but to go to the top.

01-xtreme 07-05-2009 09:57 PM

didn't we disagree about something a while back too, roastpuff?

the gtx295 is cranking out 40 fps. the i7 and the 6gb ram is doing the other 10.

edit: as long as the cpu isn't bottle necking the gpu, which in crysis, it won't be. run crysis through a register; it's the hummers of games.

asian_XL 07-05-2009 10:21 PM

the OP probably has no idea what it is going to cost...

spending over $1g on a PC just to play games is silly imo...well, whatever floats in your mind.

roastpuff 07-05-2009 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 01-xtreme (Post 6495645)
didn't we disagree about something a while back too, roastpuff?

the gtx295 is cranking out 40 fps. the i7 and the 6gb ram is doing the other 10.

edit: as long as the cpu isn't bottle necking the gpu, which in crysis, it won't be. run crysis through a register; it's the hummers of games.

I think it was that Phenom X3 thing? Something like that.

Well, I at least want a better CPU in place than a e5200 that's been O/Ced. i7 may not be necessary, but it sure helps for smooth gameplay when combined with a monster videocard! :haha:

Ferra 07-06-2009 09:13 AM

I dont' think you can ever play crysis at maxed out quality even if you willing to dig out $2000.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...v1.21,757.html

a CF 4870 x2 or GTX280 will only give you 20fps at 1600 x 1050. I think you can go up to 1900 x 1200 which will make the fps even worse. (These are for parts 6 months ago, not sure how much things have improved during these 6 months)

Btw, Crysis at 1600 x 1050 + maxout quality on PC will have much better graphic than on console.

Cman333 07-06-2009 10:35 AM

I'd say do it if you plan on keeping this comp awhile and plan on gaming alot on it.

Like I said before the total to run this game smoothly is easily $1500+. I don't know about you but even spending $1000 just to play one game seems a little ludicrous. That game is the benchmark game for PC.

Like others have said, get something worthwhile so you don't have to keep upgrading as soon as new software/games come out.

Computers are cheaper nowadays, but definately NOT cheap. It's cheap to buy a comp to check email and surf the internet. Far from cheap for video editting or gaming comps.

twitchyzero 07-06-2009 10:52 AM

never pay over $1500 for a computer..cause those top of the line products will drop so quickly...but at the same time if you plan on gaming on it a keeping it for a while...dont pay below $1000 either or it'll just become obsolete in 2 years.

In a nutshell, don't cheap out but don't go for overkill products

Ferra 07-06-2009 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 6496210)
never pay over $1500 for a computer..cause those top of the line products will drop so quickly...but at the same time if you plan on gaming on it a keeping it for a while...dont pay below $1000 either or it'll just become obsolete in 2 years.

In a nutshell, don't cheap out but don't go for overkill products

i beg to differ
I know this is subjective, but $1000 can get you a fairly high end gaming PC nowaday.
$700 can get you a PC that will play most games out there in high setting.


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