Faster Internet Speeds? (court case)
 

http://news1130.com/news/local/more....06_103250_8744


it doesn't sound like it would demand faster infrastructure, etc.... but more like bitching at throttling

we need shaw to increase all the internet services' upload speed, damn sob only giving me 1mbps up.

^ not as bad as Telus which only gives me 500kbps up. You should be happy.

Telus is fucking with my speed. Even though I'm on their Lite internet with a max speed of 256kb, I went from 160kb download to 30 down and 30 up without any notification. I'm fucking pissed about that.

you're not supposed to get 160kb d/l with their lite service...
those speeds are from the normal service

160KBps is on the 1.5mbps line :)

Shaw needs to give me more UP. 7.5/512 is so ridiculously disproportionate...

256 kbps (kilobits per second) = 32 KB/s (kilobytes per second) ... FYI

8 bits = 1 byte

of course the VP at Rogers calls the web too new. too new? at the rate computer technology moves, the internet is old as hell.

throttling should go away AFAIC, the providers role should end with giving us the speed we pay for, and not this blocking P2P crap.

eh. AFAIK Shaw doesn't throttle P2P. I've been maxing out my connection with torrents day in and day out since school ended.

the internet could be faster but its just that the old lines outside our house is way to old
they need to upgrade to fibre

^have fun waiting until like 2016 with that

IIRC only new condos have fibre connection

I think my first modem was 4800 baud.... the internet is more then fast enough as it is.

Makes sense, but the fact that Telus changed my speed from 160 to 32 WITHOUT contacting me still stands. Had they called, I would have blown it off, but now I have to keep disabling and enabling my connection in my Control Panel just to get it started every day.

its called read the fine print

Why exactly do so many of you need faster upload speeds? To run a server? AFAIK, you're not even suppose to run a server on home connections, especially with Shaw.

I don't know. Maybe it's me, but I think the internet is a privilege, not a right. I think it's within reason for an ISP to run any sort of QoS policy to control traffic when necessary to ensure an appropriate level of service. For instance, if the majority of an ISP's customers are being affected by a small minority (I.E. those who run BT 24x7 just to bump their ratio on some stupid private tracker), I think it's entirely reasonable for that ISP to take action against that small minority.

Really, you guys think small. If you heard how the ISP's in the States are treating their customers, you would be gracious at how well Shaw and Telus are as providers. There are ISP's in the US that actually enforce the bandwidth caps on their customers, and threaten to charge (and will actually do so) if they go over it - not just an empty threat like what Shaw/Telus does.

^ This man speaks the truth....

^^^ i wouldn't mind a higher upload rate.... got 3 ppl in my house doing online gaming and it lags when we're all goin at it

I haven't gamed regularly for a while, but back when i used to play FPS online, they only required about 10 kB/s (that's kiloBYTES) of bandwidth per game. Perhaps games are bandwidth heavy nowadays. Or maybe you need to run QoS within your home network.

Upload speed should not be as important as ping times and routes to the servers you're connecting to. Routes to a destination is a big factor. You can have 10 MB upload, but if you have a poor routing to your destination, none of that upload speed is going to help.


I'm not sitting here ready to defend each ISP blindly, I get frustrated by Shaw too sometimes, but I make sure it's justified. You guys should do the same. Otherwise, frankly, it just makes you all look ignorant, and that's not a diss.

no complaints about my internet :)

Yeah and look at Asia, in several countries the shittiest connection you can get is still a fibre line. North America is way behind in network speeds and quality.

Like StylinRed, when my brother and I are both gaming, the rest of our house is slowed way down, especially if the rest of the outside network is getting slowed down by our neighbours.

IMO, you should be able to run your connection at max capacity up and down, 24/7, for whatever purposes. You don't pay for X speed for 3 hours/day and Y speed for the rest, you pay for a set speed all the time.

Seeding. I have to throttle my own computer from maxing out the upload (I cut myself down to 1/3 the max up when my parents are at home/awake) just so my parents can browse the web. I'm considering springing for a 100Mb/100Mb seedbox.

As for speeds varying, my speeds never differ more than 5-7kB at different times so no gripes here.

I'm not saying I'm not content with Shaw; they've treated us well. I just want more up.