maybe i'm wrong? i'd like to think of the worst case scenario - think of a car with worn brakes and bald tires.

i'd rather run the light if it the intersection's clear of vehicles turning than to slam on the brakes, potentially lowside or be hit from behind.

^what if the car decides to run the yellow too because its cclear of turning cars
lol

pretty obvious
if there's a guy in front of you, you make the decision AFTER he guns it. Not BEFORE.

i'll see him coming down the left turn lane quickly, so i'll probably stop.

edit: let me rephrase what i originally intended to say. by a clear intersection, i meant no cars coming down the left turn lane or waiting to turn left and no cars waiting to turn right to join my direction of travel.

edit 2: you can probably question what to do if the intersection's got left & right turners and tailgaters are riding your up behind you. what do you do then? nothing, go with your instrincts and pray. you can only avoid so much and sometimes, there's just no way of predicting how things will turn out.

anyhow, i hope the riders are ok.

i saw the whole thing, the biker pretty much ran a red and got smoked
the girl passenger flew like friggen 20 feet, she bounced off the ground.. her leg was going the complete other way and she was screaming when paramedics got there

the driver didnt flee...

ambulance got there literally in less than 2 minutes
fastest ambulance ever

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall that you can't make a left turn on Granville St.

I hope the bikers are ok.

ya wtf^
i thought turning right is illigal too its go straight only

No, you can turn right from Granville onto Broadway.

Your statement isn't entirely wrong nor is it entirely right. Yes, a modern day sportbike can out brake and out maneuver pretty much most cars on the road, given the right rider that is. Unfortunately majority of riders ride way past their skill set and they think they can handle a 600cc sportbike and that's when accidents happen. Fast moving bike and a slow moving car = disaster.

Going North (heading into DT) there is no left turns. Heading South, left turns are allowed.