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woob 07-23-2009 12:50 PM

lol 1/16 Metis.

so you're <=1/32 aboriginal haha

taylor192 07-23-2009 01:02 PM

A combined tax with exemptions is not much better than the 2 different taxes. It saves some paperwork, yet not as much as you'd expect.

Its a step in the right direction towards a simpler tax code. We pay lots to accountants, lawyers, ... to interpret the many tax laws we have. A simple flat tax (VAT) would be much better.

Ferra 07-23-2009 01:11 PM

Great news for business owner ;) (It will help them save a good chunk of PST expenses)
Unfortunately most of them probably won't pass that saving on to the customers :haha:

Synaptik 07-23-2009 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by q0192837465 (Post 6519223)
but Native Indians can get into Univeristy easier and have special scholarships

and how many native indians do you think makes it into universities?

InvisibleSoul 07-23-2009 01:30 PM

Besides having to pay what would be equivalent to the PST on stuff like groceries as mentioned, what else does having the HST translate to in the real world for us regular folk in our day to day lives?

CRS 07-23-2009 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by q0192837465 (Post 6519223)
but Native Indians can get into Univeristy easier and have special scholarships

You mean FREE university?

you 07-23-2009 01:42 PM

how about just abandoning the idea of collecting tax:)
i still think these fucking taxes r too high, hurts every time i look at my paycheque and see that i get robbed 1/3 of whats mine:(

gars 07-23-2009 02:08 PM

i agree with sales tax - rather than income tax. people who spend pay more shouldn't be rewarded compared to people who are saving money. remember - it's the banks lending to people who didn't save up money properly in the first place that screwed over out economy.

up to a certain extent of course, too much sales tax would stagnate the economy...

Shun Izaki 07-23-2009 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe (Post 6519126)
we should get natives to start paying taxes

agreed, first day i worked at park royal mall, i had no idea what the fuck a status card was.

That confused the shit outta me, and i told the guy he couldn't bargain on prices, bahahhaha

Roach 07-23-2009 03:09 PM

Restaurants are going to be hurt.

Not only will customers have to pay an additional 7% on their meal, customers will have to multiply their tip on that! haha.

Therefore, your $20 meal went from:

$20 x 1.05 GST x 1.15 tip = $24.15

to

$20 x 1.12 HST x 1.15 = $25.76

Food for thought...

Kev

K-Dub 07-23-2009 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roach (Post 6519443)
Restaurants are going to be hurt.

Not only will customers have to pay an additional 7% on their meal, customers will have to multiply their tip on that! haha.

Therefore, your $20 meal went from:

$20 x 1.05 GST x 1.15 tip = $24.15

to

$20 x 1.12 HST x 1.15 = $25.76

Food for thought...

Kev

Tip before tax, don't tip on the tax.

!SG 07-23-2009 04:10 PM

we robbed their ancestors spiritual grounds...

if we apply the same type of theory towards all of history, england would be in a world of debt until all of mankind is completely destroyed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 6519132)
^but we robbed their spiritual grounds


TRD3000GT 07-23-2009 04:11 PM

Consider moving to Alberta...

twitchyzero 07-23-2009 04:12 PM

I meant to add a sarcasm emoticon but i guess that didnt show up

!SG 07-23-2009 04:15 PM

things i see will happen

out of province purchases will increase. only the state side ones will be taxed when crossing the border. less ppl will eat out, now you have to pay 7% more to eat out, it may not effect everyone, but it will effect a portion of ppl. more online purchasing, and services, eg tax consulting via online submission. may or may not happen because this is somewhat tax deductible.

Durrann1984 07-23-2009 04:21 PM

important question: do we get taxed on our groceries ??

!SG 07-23-2009 04:26 PM

What gets taxed: PST-exempt goods and services to be subject to B.C.’s harmonized sales tax

GOODS

• Residential fuels (electricity, natural gas) and heating.

• Basic cable TV and residential phones.

• All food products (only basic groceries will remain exempt under new tax).

• Non-prescription medication.

• Vitamins and dietary supplements.

• Bicycles.

• School supplies (books will continue to be exempt).

• Magazines and newspapers.

• Work-related safety equipment.

• Safety helmets, life jackets, first-aid kits.

• Smoke detectors and fire extinguishers.

• Energy conservation equipment (e.g., insulation, solar power equipment).

SERVICES

• Personal services such as hair care.

• Dry cleaning.

• Repair services for household appliances.

• Household maintenance such as renovations and painting.

• Real estate fees.

• Membership fees for health clubs.

• Movie and theatre tickets.

• Funeral services.

• Professional services such as accounting and home care.

• Airline fares within Canada.

!SG 07-23-2009 04:31 PM

so it says basic groceries will be exempted, i assume that means produce, meats, etc. processed foods will get taxed

Gnomes 07-23-2009 04:56 PM

So is the HST another tax grab? Increase user-fee type scheme?

winson604 07-23-2009 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roach (Post 6519443)
Restaurants are going to be hurt.

Not only will customers have to pay an additional 7% on their meal, customers will have to multiply their tip on that! haha.

Therefore, your $20 meal went from:

$20 x 1.05 GST x 1.15 tip = $24.15

to

$20 x 1.12 HST x 1.15 = $25.76

Food for thought...

Kev

umm nope you tip before tax not after. Looks like you were paying additional way before this HST came out haha

TylerY 07-23-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScizzMoney (Post 6519215)
Natives only don't pay taxes if they work on reserve land, and there are not many jobs on reserves. 95% of the working Native population work off reserve, therefore, pay taxes. If a native purchases something on reserve land, they can be exempt from the taxes. There are not too many businesses willing to go on reserve land, because it would have to be leased land to begin with. Not owned by the Crown, but owned by the local indian band.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synaptik (Post 6519319)
and how many native indians do you think makes it into universities?

:rolleyes:

misteranswer 07-23-2009 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 6519291)
A combined tax with exemptions is not much better than the 2 different taxes. It saves some paperwork, yet not as much as you'd expect.

Its a step in the right direction towards a simpler tax code. We pay lots to accountants, lawyers, ... to interpret the many tax laws we have. A simple flat tax (VAT) would be much better.

I think you're mixing up the names of the concepts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnomes (Post 6519619)
So is the HST another tax grab? Increase user-fee type scheme?

When they harmonized in some of the Atlantic provinces, the results ended up in less tax revenue collected than when it was separate. Mostly it's because of businesses being able to deduct the amount of HST they paid for capital whereas previously if they ended up paying PST they couldn't really deduct it. Studies on Ontarios adoption of the HST also indicated that less taxes would collected overall.



The point of harmonization isn't so the extra savings for businesses will be passed on to consumers. The point is to decrease the cost businesses incur when purchasing capital so they would invest more.

!SG 07-23-2009 05:23 PM

according to the gov't the total amount of tax they will receive will not go up. bull shit!

the % of tax has not increased, but the total amount of taxable items has, thus more items to tax, the amount increases thus more tax revenue to the gov't

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnomes (Post 6519619)
So is the HST another tax grab? Increase user-fee type scheme?


winson604 07-23-2009 06:20 PM

Ah wells since I gotta pay 7% more for eating out I'll just tip 7% less haha. The servers who usually bitch about tipping being mandatory and bitch about only getting under 20% when they did nothing will love this one.

!LittleDragon 07-23-2009 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synaptik (Post 6519319)
and how many native indians do you think makes it into universities?

I know a few but they were too proud to take a handout and paid for it themselves.


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