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Harvey Specter 07-24-2009 10:46 PM

Report: Bush mulled sending troops into Buffalo
 
WASHINGTON – The Bush administration in 2002 considered sending U.S. troops into a Buffalo, N.Y., suburb to arrest a group of terror suspects in what would have been a nearly unprecedented use of military power, The New York Times reported.

Vice President Dick Cheney and several other Bush advisers at the time strongly urged that the military be used to apprehend men who were suspected of plotting with al Qaida, who later became known as the Lackawanna Six, the Times reported on its Web site Friday night. It cited former administration officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The proposal advanced to at least one-high level administration meeting, before President George W. Bush decided against it.

Dispatching troops into the streets is virtually unheard of. The Constitution and various laws restrict the military from being used to conduct domestic raids and seize property.

According to the Times, Cheney and other Bush aides said an Oct. 23, 2001, Justice Department memo gave broad presidential authority that allowed Bush to use the domestic use of the military against al-Qaida if it was justified on the grounds of national security, rather than law enforcement.

Among those arguing for the military use besides Cheney were his legal adviser David S. Addington and some senior Defense Department officials, the Times reported.

Opposing the idea were Condoleezza Rice, then the national security adviser; John B. Bellinger III, the top lawyer at the National Security Council; FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III; and Michael Chertoff, then the head of the Justice Department's criminal division.

Bush ultimately nixed the proposal and ordered the FBI to make the arrests in Lackawanna. The men were subsequently arrested and pleaded guilty to terrorism-related charges.

Scott L. Silliman, a Duke University law professor specializing in national security law, told the Times that a U.S. president had not deployed the active-duty military on domestic soil in a law enforcement capacity, without specific statutory authority, since the Civil War.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090725/..._domestic_raid

ajax 07-24-2009 10:55 PM

What would've been the difference between using the army and using the fbi? Army can bring in some tanks?

TVD 07-24-2009 10:55 PM

Sorry to say but this seems like a major non event given hindsight. There are worse things that have happened under the Bush administration since then.

bengy 07-24-2009 11:00 PM

They need to send their army in all the fucken ghettos they have and clean that shit up

q0192837465 07-24-2009 11:13 PM

It's only a big thing since USA is basically compose of 52 small countries. Otherwise, wut's so outrageous about moving your own army from one place to another WITHIN your own country?

TVD 07-24-2009 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bengy (Post 6521395)
They need to send their army in all the fucken ghettos they have and clean that shit up

Lol. I heard Detroit's pretty bad. Anyone been to Detroit?

ajax 07-25-2009 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVD (Post 6521412)
Lol. I heard Detroit's pretty bad. Anyone been to Detroit?

Ghetto-est city in the states apparently.

nns 07-25-2009 12:28 PM

The military is not a law-enforcement agency. They are not trained to enforce the laws and rights of the people. You don't want people who don't know what they're doing going around arresting people and doing whatever backdoor "due process" on potentially innocent people.

The movie "The Siege" touches a lot of these points.

DC5-S 07-25-2009 07:15 PM

military only knows how to kill

sulos 07-27-2009 11:43 AM

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09...me_deployment/

it has happened.

"The Team "may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack."

using the military as police, nice. I would hate to be an american who opposes the government.

CRS 07-27-2009 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC5-S (Post 6522067)
military only knows how to kill

*edited by Moderator*

johny 07-27-2009 04:20 PM

they need to send the Canadaian military into caledonia, ont.

StylinRed 07-27-2009 05:06 PM

didnt read your article




but iread that it was Cheney's idea and he wanted to "test the constitution" which is really fucking scary imagining what more that guy would have done if given free reign


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