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Harvey Specter 08-12-2009 03:23 PM

Disgruntled community member makes a bold, unsettling move at in-person Obama event
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6q3YygOpbA


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By Lee-Anne Goodman, The Canadian Press

WASHINGTON - Death threats are part of the job for any American president, but Barack Obama has reportedly had more levelled against him than any commander-in-chief in history.


Concerns about his safety are mounting in the midst of a tense summer that has seen mobs of angry demonstrators showing up to protest Obama's health-care reform plans - including a man openly carrying a pistol on Tuesday in New Hampshire, where the president held a town hall meeting on health care.


It's legal to carry holstered weapons in the state, so long as they're not concealed. The man was also waving a sign that read "It Is Time To Water The Tree of Liberty," a reference to the Thomas Jefferson quote: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."


Footage of the protester with his gun in a leg holster rapidly made its way to various news websites in the hours before Obama appeared, alarming video in a country that has seen four presidents gunned down in public and attempts made on the lives of 11 others.


"There is, and rightly so, a growing concern about the tone in American politics right now," Cal Jillson, a political scientist at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, said Tuesday.


"It started with Sarah Palin and the way the crowds responded to her last year, and continued with the tea party gatherings and now the town hall meetings on health care - there is an arc of rhetorical excess that I think is rightly worrying to people."


A new book, "In The President's Secret Service," says Obama receives as many as 30 death threats a day, 400 per cent more than those made against his predecessor, George W. Bush.


Its author, Ronald Kessler, has sent shockwaves through Washington with his allegations that the cash-strapped Secret Service is cutting corners, leaving the first African-American president in U.S. history particularly vulnerable.


"There's no question his life is in danger," Kessler, a veteran investigative journalist, said in a recent television interview. "Tomorrow, Obama could be assassinated ... simply because the Secret Service was not doing what it used to do."


The Secret Service has vehemently denied those allegations, but images of the armed New Hampshire protester amid suggestions Obama isn't being adequately protected are unsettling to many Americans.


"It's a matter of time until someone is shot. And if it's Obama, the country is going to explode in violence," wrote a commenter on the Washington Post's website on Tuesday.


Even Congress representatives have faced death threats this summer over health-care reform.


A Democratic lawmaker from Washington state received a faxed death threat a day after he described enraged town hall demonstrators as "a lynch mob." Representative Brian Baird says he's also received threatening phone calls, and was forced to cancel the rest of the town halls he'd scheduled.


The likeness of a Maryland congressman was hanged in effigy at a recent town hall, and protesters carried the fake tombstone of another Texas politician at a similar event.


Jillson says top Republicans are stoking some of the anger by making statements about Obama's health-care reform plans that are "demonstrably untrue."He pointed to Sarah Palin's recent Facebook message that alleged White House "death squads" would endanger the life of her disabled infant son.


"Any time you whip up people's emotions in a political setting, the result of that is uncertain and uncontrollable," he said.

"The Republican party is on a knife's edge here - they have certainly bloodied the Democrats politically on health-care reform, but they risk going too far."

But one former Republican aide says death threats are always part of the political landscape in the U.S., adding Americans shouldn't be overly concerned right now.

Stephen Hess of the Washington-based Brookings Institution once monitored the mail of Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1961, shortly after the president left office.

"Here is a man who is a retired two-term president, revered, a five-star general in the last just war, and he's getting dozens of dozens of death threats," Hess recalled with a laugh.

"We're a large country in which there's a certain percentage of nuts, often sick people. I don't think these threats have to do with the times in any special way. Most of these people frankly are just crazy, and they've always been around."

If anything, Hess said, the advent of information technology - e-mail, in particular - means threats are much easier to make now, and the mentally unhinged can level more of them despite having little chance of ever carrying them out.

"It's anonymous and it's instant," Hess said.


jeffh 08-12-2009 03:41 PM

i hope they are smart enough to at least use a black guy to off him, so then its not an issue of race, but an issue of him ruining their country

AsBannedAsItGets 08-12-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffh (Post 6544193)
i hope they are smart enough to at least use a black guy to off him, so then its not an issue of race, but an issue of him ruining their country

you hope someone offs off obama? :eek:
and no I can't decipher if you're being sarcastic or not but either way its kinda disturbing.

tool001 08-12-2009 05:06 PM

it he was brown or wearing some kinda Osama head gear,, , they would've taken him down in a blink of an eye.... (terrorist or some... excuse will be used)

Vansterdam 08-12-2009 05:11 PM

american laws at its best

Psykopathik 08-12-2009 05:58 PM

americans make me laugh.

Harvey Specter 08-12-2009 06:00 PM

Budget cuts and service secret should never be in the same sentence.

WakeMeUp 08-12-2009 06:36 PM

Ok.. the article claims he's getting more death threats than W Bush did. Okay. But the story used to carry it about a man with a gun is stupid. If the law states you're allowed to carry it then there's no story. Seems like MSNBC hyping up a nothing situation.

OffSea 08-12-2009 07:04 PM

I thought someone decided to throw a shoe again.

_Hotsauce_ 08-12-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WakeMeUp (Post 6544420)
Ok.. the article claims he's getting more death threats than W Bush did. Okay. But the story used to carry it about a man with a gun is stupid. If the law states you're allowed to carry it then there's no story. Seems like MSNBC hyping up a nothing situation.

It's the fact that he carried it to a Presidential Town-hall and also the amount of death threats Obama has received due to his skin color, not the fact that he's legally allowed to carry a gun.

nipples 08-13-2009 12:08 AM

^true, but at firat glance, it does seem like they're making news out of nothing.
Carrying a gun, a perfectly legal and acceptable act in that state, is only mentioned because its sensationalistic to the rest of the readers.

And is obama really receiving more threats because he's black, or because he's breaking down what america symbolizes?

CRS 08-13-2009 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nipples (Post 6544921)
^true, but at firat glance, it does seem like they're making news out of nothing.
Carrying a gun, a perfectly legal and acceptable act in that state, is only mentioned because its sensationalistic to the rest of the readers.

And is obama really receiving more threats because he's black, or because he's breaking down what america symbolizes?

One would think that he is receiving more death threats than Bush because of the people who are in the opposition. How many red necks do you know that support Obama vs. all those that supported Bush? And who would be more prone to using force or violence as an act of rebellion? More specifically, who is more likely to utter death threats as a form of intimidation, someone who is a democratic or someone who is a republican?

the_rickster 08-13-2009 09:08 AM

the cops should "find some cocaine" on him and take him away.

cunninglinguist 08-13-2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nipples (Post 6544921)
^true, but at firat glance, it does seem like they're making news out of nothing.
Carrying a gun, a perfectly legal and acceptable act in that state, is only mentioned because its sensationalistic to the rest of the readers.

And is obama really receiving more threats because he's black, or because he's breaking down what america symbolizes?

I agree. Kudos to the guy for asserting his rights.

It would be quite stupid for him to use his gun as there are probably a couple of snipers aimed at his head.

Psykopathik 08-13-2009 12:41 PM

i wonder how much rights a person would have, if he walked into a bank waving around his constitutional AK-47. how about an airport?


"I need to defend myself against bank robbers and terrorists"

the right to bear arms should only extend to those with IQ's above a certain level and have no history of insanity

"sprinkle some crack on him"


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