This shouldn't be the case as the HST will be a Value Added Tax. It's suppose to be applied to the same goods GST applies to.

Either lower income tax or lower the HST to like 10% or a bit lower. 2% isn't much, but it should be more tolerable

HST isn't so bad, most of the things i pay for are double taxed neways quit complaining, and since theres a benefit when it goes through the business cycle for our economy, we might as well have it, But lowering it to 10% would be nice because it'd be cheaper and easier to calculate :thumbsup:

Support the HST? So you are okay with paying 12% on beer?

HST = FUKING GAY

and that right there is one of the reasons we are in a recession. less spending going on.... more hoarding.

how do you think this economy runs? from the money sitting under your pillow? It's buisnuess out there that need the help right now. It's worth it for one or two less dinners out a week for me and cutting back on special purchases to make sure I have a better future. Long term HST will help, I can't help those who are too young, selfish and ignorant to realize it.

Everything has already been explained in this thread and proven to be true through other provinces that already have HST. Nothing more to say really....

Yeah..money in the pocket for the CEOs. Why can't the CEOs just make less money and screw the bonuses thus no HST. Look at ICBC and their insane bonuses.

im starting to understand some of the "pros" of the new HST but at the end of the day all i can say is fukk HST !!!!

i work too damn hard and pay enough taxes as it is, everything that i do i get slammed with another tax or fee, i pay hidden translink fees and i dont even use their system, the government is bleeding us dry and running the province deeper in debt.... at the current rate i dont think BC will ever be debt free and i only foresee more and more taxes, fees and tariffs like the HST and other trumped up bullshit... thinking back to my old history books, werent taxes supposed to be a temporary thing, what happened?

the only decent part i see about HST is that it is lower than VAT in the UK, currently VAT is 15% and is increasing to 17.5% next year, ouch!!!

If the government isn't getting more revenue by introducing the HST, why would they do it? ;)

^Property Tax

Nobody mentioned Ottawa's giving the BC govt $1.6 Billion just to switch over.

Don't we pay the second lowest income taxes in the country or something? HST is an annoyance, but it's not gonna change my life.

Is everyone that is against the HST absolutely myopic?

Isnt the reason why we have recession this time around is because people overspent and drowned themselves in debt?


http://www.vimeo.com/3261363?pg=embed&sec=&hd=1

No HST = Today's solution is tomorrow's problem
HST = If I can make it to tomorrow

seriously guys, this thread is bs, just go back to my thread and say FUCK the hst

When I purchase something from Futureshop, I already pay 12%. When I purchase something from Rogers, I already pay 12%. When I purchase a new power supply from NCIX, I already pay 12%. Notice something here? I already pay 12% on most consumer goods.

Here's a scenario: A small coffee shop that serves sandwiches and drinks.
- I purchase a sandwich and coffee today: $8.95 + 5% GST = $9.40
- I purchase the same thing next August: $8.95 + 12% HST = $10.02

That's a difference of $0.62. If I visit this shop four times a week, the cumulative effect of that is $2.48. Chump change if you ask me.

Beer is already taxed at 15% (GST + 10%.) When you visit BC Liquor, the taxes are already embedded in the prices. In fact, with the HST, the provincial alcohol tax is set to go down.

You only pay the HST on newly-constructed homes. How often does a family buy a brand new home? Maybe once in a lifetime? As far I can tell, the middle class in the Lower Mainland is doing pretty well, judging from all of the leased BMWs, Mercedes, Lexuses I see around town. And even if you have to pay the HST on a used car purchase, most people already grossly underdeclare the purchase price of their vehicles when they register them with ICBC, so this is perhaps a way for the government to get some of that lost revenue back.

And to those people who complain about taxes, well who's going to pay for the roads, the health care system, schools, CPP administration, etc., etc. that everyone will use at some point in their lives?

Because the HST is a more fair tax than a pure sales tax, where some finals goods end up being taxed multiple times because their intermediates are also taxed.

Don't be a drama queen. The government doesn't need to employ everyone.

Tax revenue decreased in every other province to enact the HST. Please do your homework first, they are not raising more revenue other than the $1.5B bribe from Ottawa.

Yes it will if the builders do not pass on the savings.

Or it won't cause if houses won't sell cause they cost more... well guess what? the market sets the prices, if people won't pay, prices will come down.

Tapioca and Taylor you guys don't have to debate anymore. They just don't get it. :/

I know :(

These are the same people that hate government wasting tax dollars, yet the government is showing some initiative to reduce government bureaucracy, administration and overhead and people still complain. :rolleyes:

^ You can't satisfy everyone and everything. That's just how things are. Oh and one more thing, Alcohol will be cheaper and same with Hotels. since Beer's PST is 10% so once the HST is in effect that will be reduced by 3 percent!

Come on guys it's not that bad!

fukkkkkkkk hst ! @@:
i'd rather be saving my money, then losing more because of hst..

If people want to stimulate the economy and pay more tax, feel free to do so at your own expense. Leave the rest of us out of it.

sooner or later you'll hear that the government peeps will need a raise because the cost of living has gone up...i work hard and haven't had a raise in three years yet everything has gone up...sure its pennies for someone but when you add it all up its still significant...i say do something to benefit an individual since i haven't heard anything being done to that extent...like someone mentioned...the ceos will be laughing this one off and at the same time they'll be asking for another bonus for all the income they're bringing in...

last i mentioned i'm in it for myself doesn't me just me per se but i want it to benefit my neighborhood too...where is my skytrain? oh yah...for some reason they brought it to a city with less people than where i live...dont get me wrong since i'm happy for richmond getting it...but i want more stations in surrey since i live here and i work here...