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SkinnyPupp 09-08-2009 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by !SG (Post 6581647)
computer took a major dump. upgraded to windows 7 64bit (as i built my comp right when vista came out and 64bit was optional.)

so far no major problems, a few older programs i used needed to find their newer upgraded versions.

some old peripherals are useless now as i highly doubt they will even put out any 64bit drivers. other than that, im finding it a lot faster.

my mobo is maxed out at 4G's of ram.

some programs i use dont have a digitial signature on them and windows 7 doesnt give u the option of running them.

What do you have that do not have 64 bit drivers? I know a lot of Linksys products don't have drivers newer than 3 years old, even though they still sell the products in stores.

Mugen EvOlutioN 09-08-2009 07:09 AM

window 7 is available now?

how much is the software

syee 09-08-2009 07:44 AM

Most of the time, if you can't find a 64 bit driver for Windows 7, you can get by with the Vista version of the driver. Might come in handy for instances where the manufacturer hasn't created a Windows 7 driver yet.

One problem I've had with using any 64 bit OS - there's still some manufacturers that haven't developed their applications to work on a 64 bit OS - namely Western Digital's disk diag apps...It's a bit annoying having to keep a drive with a 32 bit OS on there to run certain apps...

Jmac 09-08-2009 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6582304)
What do you have that do not have 64 bit drivers? I know a lot of Linksys products don't have drivers newer than 3 years old, even though they still sell the products in stores.

They don't even have VISTA drivers for some of their products they sell in store. Practically nothing they have supports 64-bit.

Cisco/Linksys is a lazy, lazy, lazy company.

!SG 09-08-2009 09:49 AM

try this...

avertv
soundblaster live 5.1

:D

both pretty much stopped carrying support. both are old... i mean pci card old, i mean 01 old!

funny thing, i installed another antispyware program last night and as it rebooted, bam, black screen of death w/ white mouse cursor...

couldnt reset to an old config as the system was up for less than 24hrs, and safemode just got me a lower resolution, bigger mouse cursor version of the same black screen...


Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6582304)
What do you have that do not have 64 bit drivers? I know a lot of Linksys products don't have drivers newer than 3 years old, even though they still sell the products in stores.


SkinnyPupp 09-08-2009 09:53 AM

Yeah I wouldn't expect 9-10 year old hardware to work with today's systems at all. That even predates 64-bit home desktop processors :lol

!SG 09-08-2009 10:47 AM

hahaha...

its ok, the avertv card was old... it used an external audio output, which is why i needed the soundblaster, as my onboard realtek has a hardware issue (apparently a lot of ppl have the same issue) where the "line in" wasnt working.

now i got rid of the aver tv AND the soundblaster audio card, makes things less cluttered

lilaznviper 09-08-2009 12:10 PM

getting my msdn account activated at school so i can get windows 7 64bit LEGIT

DragonChi 09-08-2009 09:54 PM

word on using vista drivers for w7.
I did that for my dell D630. I also was able to use the e6400 touchpad drivers, since there were no x64 vista drivers available.

trd2343 09-11-2009 11:30 PM

Sorry for my ignorance, but what's the difference between 32bit and 64bit?

Right now, I'm using Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz with 2.00 GB RAM running Windows 7 32bit RC. At the moment, everything runs quite smoothly (by my standards), so should I upgrade to 64bit?

I use my computer mainly for word processing, internet, and occasionally games and movies (though I find that the computer lags when playing newer games or when watching HD movies)

way2quik 09-11-2009 11:39 PM

The minimum requirements to run W7 is roughly 1Ghz, 1GB ram 128mb gpu?
Depends if your CPU supports 64bit.

For those worrying about W7 drivers and those who have a SoundMAX audio drivers are SOL. There is a 'latest' driver out on the web, but dated back in 2008 which does prevent crashes.
It's no wonder people always look for RealTek; always updates their drivers.

lilaznviper 09-12-2009 09:13 AM

installed x64 on my laptop and current having so much problems installing drivers for it
all the drivers i donwloaded off hp for vista64 are corrupt

SkinnyPupp 09-12-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by reamemiya (Post 6588707)
Sorry for my ignorance, but what's the difference between 32bit and 64bit?

Right now, I'm using Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz with 2.00 GB RAM running Windows 7 32bit RC. At the moment, everything runs quite smoothly (by my standards), so should I upgrade to 64bit?

I use my computer mainly for word processing, internet, and occasionally games and movies (though I find that the computer lags when playing newer games or when watching HD movies)

No, it wouldn't make a difference now. But when you do install the final version, you can go either way. With 2GB of ram, it won't make much of a difference either way.

dual 09-12-2009 07:06 PM

I'm about to upgrade too but I'd like to know some things first.

1. Would 64 bit drain the battery faster than a 32 bit? Would 64 bit make the processor work harder?

2. Is the requirements for Aero in W7 lower than Aero for Vista? My IGP can barely run Vista Aero with transparency and I want to know if it will be better in W7.

.Renn.Sport 09-12-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6589582)
No, it wouldn't make a difference now. But when you do install the final version, you can go either way. With 2GB of ram, it won't make much of a difference either way.

yea, biggest advantage of 64bit right now is running over 4GB of ram. its quite a bit faster running 64bit programs also. but no regular computer users will take advantage of the 64bit programs. 99% of the programs are 32bit anyways.

if u are running a DDR2 system.... it would be stupid to have anything less then 4GB ram with ram prices so low nowadays

SkinnyPupp 09-12-2009 07:56 PM

64-bit programs aren't always faster

trd2343 09-14-2009 08:08 PM

Just in terms of speed, 64bit won't be slower than a 32bit if your computer supports it, right?

My sister got a HP from Futureshop in Jan., and we were surprised that it was a 64bit Vista. But everything works on it, or at least the software that we use. So I'm not worried about software or hardware issue.

Rather, I heard (yea, you can't believe everything you hear), that although 64bit is faster, it uses more RAM in general (ie even during idle) :confused:. That's why I'm just making sure that installing 64bit can't make your computer slower than it was on 32bit.

!SG 09-14-2009 08:26 PM

ram is so cheap these days, there is no reason not to be running with extra ram, unless ur board is so old then there is no reason to upgrade the os.

SkinnyPupp 09-14-2009 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reamemiya (Post 6592761)
you can't believe everything you hear

That.

.Renn.Sport 09-14-2009 11:24 PM

vista and windows 7 will use more ram when u have more available ram in your system. they will put a lot of stuff in the superfetch to make use of your available memory

Preemo 09-15-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by !SG (Post 6592797)
ram is so cheap these days, there is no reason not to be running with extra ram, unless ur board is so old then there is no reason to upgrade the os.

Amen! I'm starting to feel that 4GB is inadequate but then again, my PSD's never reach over 100MB and my rig is used for coding, most of the time.




...


And the occasional TF2!

wasabisashimi 09-15-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by .Renn.Sport (Post 6589662)
but no regular computer users will take advantage of the 64bit programs. 99% of the programs are 32bit anyways.


So what is the point of running at 64bit installation if 99% programs are made for 32bit. Wouldn't 64bit installation just gives you more chance of crashing with incompatible drivers and hardware?


For an internet browsing and average gamer. Wouldn't 32bit enough and it rules out the chance of driver updates and other hassles.

El Bastardo 09-15-2009 05:01 PM

I'm running Win7 Home Premium on my Wind u90. Its the 32 bit edition and because I'm not doing heavy duty things on it its working fine for me. I max out at 2gb ram and have a 1.6ghz processor its doing fine for me. The Home Premium install is relatively small in size and to be honest is probably best for people wanting to update old laptops or upgrade their netbooks.

Even tho I'm running the Aero theme I have no problems with it and everything I've plugged into it has been entirely plug and play including the onboard hardware.




Honestly, don't count out the 32bit version. Especially if you want to breathe new life into an older machine.

SkinnyPupp 09-15-2009 07:04 PM

Let's go back to the root of things:

There is no reason not to use 64-bit. Even if all the programs you use are 32-bit. It's no more expensive, it's no slower, etc. Just use it if you are building a new system and leave it at that.

Razor Ramon HG 09-15-2009 07:37 PM

For me, I didn't have any problems with Vista x64, neither do I now with Windows 7 x64, so I always recommend it over x86 if someone's computer can support it.


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