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Saw a pic of the problem in the province. I understand the problem after seeing the pic. The floor mat has like a built in wedge to jam on the accelerator lmao

Did any one else think it was weird listening to the end of the phone conversation with the police as they got to the intersection? kinda creeped me out!

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Originally Posted by ilvtofu (Post 6615631)

This is old news, the Ford mustang had this problem many years ago and had a recall on it.

what year is this ?

my 05 had the gas pedal stick a few times...scary the first time, easy solution the next few times

hence i took floor mats out of my toyota. booyah

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Originally Posted by Volvo-brickster (Post 6616438)

what year is this ?

my 05 had the gas pedal stick a few times...scary the first time, easy solution the next few times

I think it applies to the previous gen cobras like 03-04
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recal...ord_cobra.html

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 6615202)

Am I the only one that picked up on this?

Toyota's floor mat DID NOT kill. Some improperly fitting aftermarket mat did.

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NHTSA investigators determined that a rubber all-weather floor mat found in the wreckage was slightly longer than the mat that belonged in the vehicle, something that could have snared or covered the accelerator pedal.

The NHTSA investigation isn't finished yet. All they said is they found a non-standard floor mat that could have interfered with the throttle.

What this news report fails to mention (but others have) is that there have also been cases of vehicles having unintended acceleration with properly fitted floor mats that didn't interfere with the pedal. There have also been cases of this hapenning in vehicles with no floor mats.

I bet the NHTSA is spending a lot of time looking at two things: first, the drive-by-wire throttle system and why the engine didn't reduce power when the computer detects both brake and gas pedal being pressed at the same time (many new vehicles with drive by wire throttle do exactly this).

Second, I bet they are looking at the shift interlock circuit, which, BTW, is controlled by a computer module on these particular Toyta/Lexus vehicles.

I find it hard to believe a police veteran (who take advanced driving courses) that also performs mechanical safety inspections on, among other things, ambulances and armored cars, somehow lacked the knowledge to shift the car into neutral.

I can see missing the 3-second press to shut the engine off if you're not familiar with the car, but the shifting part I don't get.

3 second press to shut off engine is that standard on all push button start cars?

with cars getting more advanced and having more computer it would be critical to have some kind of manual overide when the computer mess up or decide to take over. maybe a standard way to turn off use by all manufactures

Floormats aside, why does toyota think that the ES350, Toyota Camry and Rav4 is warranted to have 268bhp?

They should have been engineered to go no faster than 120km/h on the road, which is all that the buyer cares for when he opts for such bread and butter model.

Most people who buy these vehicles have no interest in driving, so why give them performance to begin with?

Stuck throttles used to happen quite often on older cars... my Dad always told me stories of university when friends in new Fiat's and stuff... throttle cable would snap and be doing like 70-80mph in Stanley Park before realizing they better just turn off the key and stop...

Push-button start FTL. Most people wouldn't know to hold it down for 3 seconds I think... so much nicer to have a key to turn, sometimes technology is so fail.

Bump...

So Toyota just announced another throttle pedal recall yesterday. Millions of vehicles to check the possibility of a "worn out pedal" which could stick, causing the throttle to stay open.

So it appears there's more going on than just simply floor mats.

And as to the NHTSA, they haven't closed the case of the Lexus yet. They did say they hadn't found "anything conclusive" which Toyota mis-quoted and made it sound like there was nothing wrong with the vehicle. This comment by Toyota is what prompted NHTSA to clarify (and give Toyota shit) saying the investigation is still open.

Not finding anything yet doesn't mean they won't find anything - it just means they're still looking.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/...18954

Cliff Notes:

Guys Avalon has several unintended acceleration problems. Dealer can't figure it out. Then it happens again as he was driving, guy remember to put it into neutral, and he coaxes the car back to dealership. Car is revving uncontrollably in Neutral in front of Service Manager.

It wasn't the floor mats.

Guy said stepping on brakes had no effect.........

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Originally Posted by too_slow (Post 6782418)

link is not working for me :confused:

So, back when the Lexus accident in San Diego happened, the head of Toyota was very admant that there were no mechanical problems relating to sticking throttles and that is was nothing more than a floor mat problem. He went so far as to specify that Toyota engineers went over everything to make sure of this.

Now they are recalling millions because of a stuck throttle and a faulty throttle mechanism.

Some of the vehicles recalled for the floor mat issue are the exact same vehicles recalled for the floor mat issue, while many others weren't even in the original recall.

Nothing like getting caught lying, is there? :rolleyes: